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純粋な能力の問題ではなく、生活環境や考え方の問題だ。
文プロのフォルムにそんな人はなかなかいませんね。
我々は同じ方法を使っている、毎日の勉強時間の違いだけですと思う。
必要のは方法とか覚悟とか研究とか、毎日勉強の時間ではないと思う
While I am not a “speed-first” learner myself, there is something to be said for the effectiveness of “just do y hours a day.” Unless there are pretty serious flaws in one’s learning strategy, it really is the case that someone who is able to structure their time and prioritize their life in a way that allows them to spend 5 or 7 hours everyday on focused learning will make a lot more progress than someone who spends 1 or 2. Obviously that’s not the whole story: the “grinding levels” phenomenon in language learning that started with Duolingo and has been adapted and improved by sites like Bunpro is not really a great way to measure your progress – if you cram Bunpro without any exposure to native material or attempt to output, you’re gonna have serious holes in your understanding. But I do think that, as long as you can stay motivated, more is more when it comes to time spent, and highly motivated people who are willing and able to spend more time will reap the benefits of that willingness.
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More is more, but the law of diminishing returns kicks in at a certain point. Grinding flashcards for 2 hours a day is nowhere near 4 times more effective than doing it for 30 minutes. It’s not a sprint, it’s a marathon.
Not true
Won’t say about anki, feels like it’s nut much different unless you can no do that, but if we talking about reading or listening, or any other type of studding including input, it will be even more effective
I am not sure what you are trying to disagree with here. For any mental activity, you get more fatigued with time, thus losing productivity. Maybe not true for the first few minutes as you are getting in the zone and setting up, but I would expect it to hold in 99% of the cases after a certain threshold.
There are definitely research papers studying the effect of the length of tests/study sessions on final outcome.
It’s one of the points of SRS systems as well – you are not going over and over the same vocab in a single long session, but you spread it out across smaller sessions across hours/days.
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This is such a valueable point! SRS is all about min-maxing time spent and stuff learned. But at the same time, I vividly remember the thread were folks were discussing how inefficient the SRS here in bunpro is and how the spacing doesn’t fit them personally. I’m pretty sure the SRS spacing here was good enough for most, not perfect, but most don’t need perfect to learn anyway, the difference between 95% retention and 98% retention is not worth discussing, unless it’s REALLY important to you. But there are always outliers who don’t fit into the system and who really struggle with the SRS spacing here.
But folks learned languages before SRS and there are people out there today who just don’t use it and prefer to learn another way. And they improve too, maybe not as efficient as others, but not everybody cares about efficency.
I don’t even know what the “best” duration for a learning session is. Pomodoro pushed 20 minutes, when I went to school they pushed 45 minutes, and school nowadays push 90 minutes. 20 minutes feels way too short for me, the fun just started and I have to stop already? I usually go for 45 minutes for reviews and learning new vocab/grammar points, but sometimes this still feels too short cause it was fun. I can imagine there are people out there who do enjoy 4 hours of learning and can keep up their focus for that long. I know I can keep focus for that long, when the task is juuuuuuust right, but doing reviews for 4 hours would be too boring for me.
Usually the pomodoro method refers to blocks of focus time vs break time-- so it is easily possible to study for 4 hours using pomodoro, that just entails 8 blocks of 25 minute study and 8 blocks of 5 minute break time.
I definitely agree that best strategy is subjective! I think experimentation and open mindedness are important if you want to learn well, no matter what the subject is.
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