“The only player since 1983 to score in 5 consecutive games when wearing blue if the day was rainy”
We love ridiculous stats
“The only player since 1983 to score in 5 consecutive games when wearing blue if the day was rainy”
We love ridiculous stats

also go raps
This thread went places, I’m a little scared to add my cents, but here we go.
I think you got it a little backwards. Advanced learners don’t need stats anymore because the stats were outgrown, that doesn’t mean the stats were harmful, over obsessed or useless.
Japanese has lots of pitfalls/filters, the more you can avoid them, the best. It’s way easier to control what you measure, specially when you have so little to track as a beginner.
At this point I don’t care about how many words, kanji, grammar points I know, and I used to. But I do care about how many hours I spend reading, how fast, and which books; because this is way more relevant for my growth right now. At some point, I’ll be feed up with these stats as well, and the most I’ll track will be the list of completed books, like i already do with anime on myanimelist.
In the community i spend the most time, there’s more people interested in reviewing books, sharing recommendations, discussing opinions, and less of the people obsessed with numbers involving JLPT, grammar points and kanji.
That’s the drawback of surrounding yourself with the newbies. The beginner can’t read, listen, talk nor write japanese, the most he can show to keep himself accountable is “i kept up with my streak and i reached 2000 words today! :D” and that is pretty good tbh! Of course, they need to interact more with the language in other ways very soon, at the expense of being a beginner forever otherwise.
You look scared to death!
Brook would be proud of you 




I literally host local, in-person study groups and conversation groups in Japanese, lol.
Oh, sorry if it was unclear lol
That was directed at the hypothetical “beginner obsessed with numbers” not at you personally 
All good.
When I talk to people who are learning English, Chinese or Korean they often say “外国人と話したい”. The goal is to talk to people that’s why they show up to clubs.
I asked an American friend this week ‘why are you studing Japanese?’ (She has been studing since 2018) ‘because my duolingo streak is more impressive than my candycrush streak’ the stats are the point.
This is why I started learning Japanese.
I want out now. This year my new years resolution is to spend more time reading books, and talking to Japanese people, and less time talking about Japanese.
It’s so interesting when you go out and meet people. Today, I didn’t really feel like going out but I’m glad I did. I live in a military city, so I spoke to a member of the 自衛隊 at a kaiwa club which was really interesting.
Getting out of one’s comfort zone is one of the best things you can do for your Japanese.