Aphantasia - how to study kanji?

Hi! I’ve been struggling with kanji for a long time, but I figured that the wise people of bunpro might be able to give me some advice or maybe relate to my issue.
tldr: I have aphantasia and this makes recognizing kanji basically hard mode. How can I study kanji in a way that doesn’t rely primarily on visual cues? Writing and breaking them down into radicals have helped me in the past.

I know I’m far from alone in finding kanji difficult and I’m familiar with the usual advice: learn it as part of vocab, then it’ll stick and you will learn it in a helpful context. However… I’m around 2 years into learning Japanese, halfway through the N4 content here on bunpro, and the kanji are just not sticking. I mainly struggle with recognizing kanji and discerning similar ones, while memorizing meanings and readings haven’t been particularly problematic for me.

However, I think that the reason why I don’t seem to learn kanji very easily is that I have aphantasia - I don’t have the ability to visualize things inside my head. Remember that thing a few years ago with the apples on a scale from 1-5? That’s me. My visual memory is terrible and I can’t recall the image of any specific kanji inside my head (including ones I know!). The sets of kanji that differ by just one radical are especially brutal! This also means that I tend to skim over kanji and only really get a vague feel for the overall shape of it.

The one thing that really did help me was back when I tried out RTK. Which I feel weird about, because everyone seems to have very strong feelings about that method, lol! It’s not perfect, I would prefer to skip some of the less common kanji, and it became extremely tedious. At one point I stopped doing it daily, probably because an exam season came up, and once the ball stopped rolling with RTK, I found it extremely difficult to get back into without restarting from the beginning. But something about it just worked so well with my brain. I think breaking each kanji down into components and then using muscle memory (by writing the kanji down during reviews) allowed me to remember the kanji without relying primarily on visual information.

I want to start focusing more on bringing my kanji up to speed. Do I go back to RTK? Maybe limiting it to the 500 or 1k most frequent kanji? Would it be beneficial to start studying radicals? Writing down the kanji I encounter when I do my bunpro reviews? Or maybe wanikani is the way?

I’m open to advice and especially curious if there are others like me, who have no visual memory to rely on. Have you tried any of the things I just mentioned or maybe something entirely different that worked for you?

It got a little long in the end, but thank you for taking the time to read!

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I have a relatively mild case of aphantasia (more precisely I spent my 20 first year at “no apple” and trained myself a bit and now I can see a veryyyyyyyyy low resolution of an apple if I focus really hard on it). For what it’s worth I do not focus at all on writing. I’ll learn to write the few kanjis I’ll need in daily life when I get there.

I did RRTK for the 1000 first kanjis during 2 years (RRTK as in, kanji and meaning, recalling what concept is associated to which kanji, never in the reverse) , but then stopped completely and only restarted kanji a year later.
I highly recommend radicals are/were very useful as it transforms a kanji from an image to a set/assembly from a smaller set of components. Don’t over focus on them, it’s more important to have a vague sense than being able to say “oh yeah 海, so it’s water no 2. lid (1) and mother”, but to know where the line is drawn.

This helped a lot but the real way I learned kanjis for real is: read read read read read read read read. I think I did not really fix any kanjis with Anki itself, but having seen the kanji once and having a vague sense of familiarity and then stumbling upon it in nature, and going “ahaah that’s where you use it”. I have 裁 from 裁判 in my leeches, suspended, yet I have no issue reading it in the wild since you encounter most of the words that will use it if you play Ace Attorney 1 in japanese (逆転勝利). It is much harder than simply doing anki cards and I had quite a hard time at first but I progressed more in one year of reading an hour a day with barely any anki (>30 review per day, 5-7 mins) than when I did 3 hours a day anki sessions. RRTK was much less wasted than I feared in the end, but I recommend mixing sources. In my case one way of studying kanjis did not work.

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Seems like the RTK method is something that works for you. I’d give it a shot again.

As long as you have a good understanding of the fundamentals on how the Heisig method breaks down the radicals and primitives, you can approach kanji in any order you want. Feel free to just focus on the most frequent 500 or 1,000 kanji. Also the RTK website has hundreds of example stories available for each kanji if you are looking for inspirations for coming up with your own. Though I do have to warn that many of the community stories are quite crude (sexist, etc).

I recommend finding learning pace that works for you and allows you to be consistent over time. Learning Japanese is not a race. It’s too easy in the language study world to start out too strong out of the gate and find yourself overwhelmed and discouraged a few weeks/months later.

You could also experiment with wanikani.

I personally picked up wanikani after learning around 2,000 kanji via the RTK system. I basically ignored wanikani’s own mnemonic system because I already developed my own system via RTK and used Wanikani as pure reinforcement of reading and vocabulary.

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I’m getting tired of Anki in like 1 week every time, but if you like it and can be consistent the best of what I’ve tired is this:

Find a word you know but cannot read. Add that word to Anki deck with audio or hiragana on the front. Now when you see the front of the card you try to recall it.

I don’t know though if it’ll work with this.

If you find rtk helpful I’d incorporate it into this framework, as learning kanji for words you don’t know is so much less pleasant in my opinion, not only not pleasant but also they don’t really stay there.

Also, have you tired just reading? If you do that, you are getting better at reading kanji?

I also advise this thing for kanji every time
https://learnjapanese.moe/kanjiphonetics/

If you do RTK you definetly should include braking kanji down by phonetic/meaning components when you can, took my kanji skills to another level at some point (outlier dictionary is good for that)

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I will start by saying that I don’t have aphantasia, so I hope that this doesn’t come off as insensitive.

When I first heard about aphantasia around 10 years ago, I was worried that I had it myself. Whenever I try to imagine things, they are usually dark or blurry, or seemingly missing details that just appear as complete “blank” aspects of the picture (it’s hard to describe, it’s not like they are dark, but they just don’t exist at all). Sometimes that aspect is color, or important details, or the background scenery.

So I decided to start training my imagination while I’m lying in bed trying to fall asleep.

What I will do is count from 0 to 300 in my head, and while doing so, imagine the visual number from 0 to 300 as clearly as possible in my mind.

When I first started doing this, sometimes I couldn’t picture the number at all. Then, sometimes the number would be blurry or disappear. Then, strangely the number was always off center (it was like up and to the right of my imaginary field of view).

Then, finally I was able to imagine a “sans serif” font version of the number as a black number in the center of my field of view on a white background.

Next, I decided to train color, and I was eventually able to see red or green numbers on a white background.

Then, I decided to train the background, so I was able to imagine the number on top of a “water” background or a “grass” background.

Then, I trained perspective, so I was able to imagine the numbers as 3D floating above a desert background or similar. At the same time I was able to train texture, so I was able to imagine the numbers covered in grass or dirt or something like that.

Now, after years and years of practicing this, I can imagine multiple sets of numbers flipping at the same time with different “animations” of number transitions, and the background scenery and perspective changing as often as I want it to.

All this is to say, that, if you have even a blurry, dark, “partially absent” ability to visualize things, then it is a skill that seems to be able to be trainable.

At times I was very frustrated that while training my visualization would go blank or blurry again, so there is a mindset aspect as well to the training.

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Hi, I have full aphantasia, I use an RTK anki deck, the mnemonics help (I usually change them for myself).
When I have the time, I check my knowledge first writing the kanji by hand and checking the result after that. It helps retention, handwriting, and also helps with not being able to imagine the kanji’s shape.
Another way is writing out the kanji in the air with my thumb (I use the anki app mainly).
In general, once you make a dent in the kanjis, it actually gets easier to learn new ones, as you will have brain paths where you can append the new kanji, so do not give up.
I am not a fan of paper-based work due to my schedule, but there are freely available materials online, and maybe doing the kanji learning and practice on paper could help as well.

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I actually have aphantasia. I personally never did RTK or any mnemonic based kanji study precisely because of it (I think they work better if you can picture the mnemonic in your head). For kanji I did two things:

  1. Learn words
  2. Learn about kanji components

I will expand on both those points a tiny bit.

Learning Words: Although it may take longer at first, learning kanji as part of words has the benefit of anchoring kanji to something. Initially you may be remembering the overall shape of the word, rather than the kanji itself, but as you learn more words you will find yourself more easily distinguishing kanji until eventually you just “know” them. Kanji are made up of repeated parts, as are words, and our brains are very very good at pattern recognition. The more exposure you get to in context patterns, the faster you’ll pick them up without thinking about it.

Learning About Kanji Components: This means learning the actual breakdown of the kanji, not the breakdowns used for mnemonics in things like RTK and Wanikani (those serve a different purpose). Most (arguably all) kanji are fairly logically constructed. Learning the basics of this will make it easier to spot things. There is generally not a lot of reliable information on this stuff in English, but I used the Outlier add-on for the Kanji Study app (Android only) as a beginner/intermediate until I could use Japanese sources and would still recommend it as a kanji dictionary.


Whatever you decide, if you stick with it it will get easier. When I was an intermediate I think kanji was maybe even my strongest skill, despite doing no SRS for it, just because I paid attention to them when reading. The only way to fail is to give up. Good luck and just keep going!

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By the way, I found reading about your experience here quite interesting. Makes me wonder about if someone could train, for example, their auditory imagination as well. Anyway, this is veering off topic…

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I don’t have aphantasia, and I can’t do this either. This is normal. I can visualize the ones I’ve learned to write well.

I have noticed learning to write even less than 1k kanji has helped a lot with clearing up kanji that are easy to mix up and I look forward to see what it will be like reading with being able to write 99.9% of the kanji I read.

It is pretty time inefficient to write instead of reading and listening though and learning to write is not strictly necessary even for people residing in Japan so I understand why most people delay it or don’t do it at all.

If RRTK and learning new words is genuinely difficult and still difficult I think learning to write is not a bad idea, but it’s more important that you keep up with reviews than add new kanji because starting back up after a long hiatus is brutal. I’m doing 2-3 new a day and even that is giving me quite the review load that could be spend doing other things and it’s not like I urgently need to learn 3k in a year. FWIW the first 500 kanji or so are the most difficult to memorize both for writing and recognition because you are less used to the components whereas picking up a new kanji later in your learning becomes completely trivial at some point.

Sidenote, how much immersion do you do? It is difficult to remember things you don’t use often that are stuck in the study phase. If you see them more often it will be easier to remember.

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@shinjukusunset - Sounds like I am in the exact same boat as you as I have aphantasia, but am about 6 months further along. I have learned a lot from some of the comments here about some options that can help, and think there is a lot of advice here and I agree with a lot of it, especially reading.

For me, I try and read every day for at least 30 minutes. Currently I am spending 75% of my time reading stuff with furigana and the the rest without. I have found with aphantasia and an overall struggle with kanji that having the Hiragana at this stage really helps, as often I remember the meaning as soon as I see the furigana. You don’t want this to become too much of a crutch, but I have found that my reading speed and comprehension have drastically improved, and even when I read without the furigana I can ‘get in the flow’ and understand way more because of all of this practice reading I have been doing.

Just that has helped me. Oh, I also use wanikani, but often find that things I have mastered I won’t recognize at all 6 months later. Like, I literally think I have never seen that kanji before ever in my whole life. So the reading repetition helps, but I probably need to read a wider variety of stuff to keep all of the kanji I have learned.

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I have aphantasia and have been enjoying using wanikani for learning kanji. I never would have learned them without, but knowing the radicals and then building up the kanji really helped me.

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I don’t know anything about aphantasia, however you don’t need to be able to see the kanji in your head to be able to read. I can read way more kanji that I can remember inside of my head, it’s recognition over and over again with Anki. However, I’m not sure how aphantasia affects visual memory when you see something or not, so I can’t say what’ll work for your condition.

Thanks to writing, I’ve actually become able to see kanji in my head but I didn’t always use to be. Even before, I could still learn to write, it was more 1. memorizing mnemonics that I came up with (for example 校: My father goes to school in the woods to keep a roof over my head) and 2. writing until it basically becomes muscle memory and then I don’t have to worry about remembering it in my head as my hands do it. This should probably eventually become possible. I assume that you can handwrite English for example, and presumably you still can’t see English letters in your head. Of course for Chinese characters you have thousands instead of tens of them, but how capable muscle memory can get really surprises me at times.

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Hey, also aphantasic here! A lot of guides focus on a pictorial way of remembering characters. That obviously doesn’t work for you or me. Considering I’ve learned all of the Jouyou kanji by now, I am in a good position to recommend my approach and to chat about what works for me and what might work for you. I apologise for how long this reply got, but there’s a lot to unpack.

Before I get into it, cards on the table, I don’t like RTK as a method, mainly because of its frontloaded approach to memorisation. But its mnemonic system and the decompositional approach to kanji absolutely works better for you and me than basically any other approach out there. To recommend something similar that has less of RTK’s flaws, I’d suggest looking into Kodansha Kanji Learner’s Course by Andrew Scott Conning. Conning takes a more holistic approach in ensuring you learn the parts, the vocab and the pronunications when you learn the character, as opposed to Heisig’s learn the meanings first, and the sounds later approach in RTK which doesn’t even get as far as vocabulary. Conning also provides workbooks for practicing writing the characters, and graded readers for reading the characters in context with their vocab. It’s a good all-round approach if you’re willing to buy in, but it is not in Jouyou order, which can be a bit of an obstacle if you’re JLPT oriented (Then again, RTK is not in Jouyou order either)

Anyway, some good news, character recognition does not rely on your image memory. At least, not once you know a character. It instead relies on your language processing, same way you can recognise written words in English, despite the fact that they are ultimately images on the page. Unfortunately, getting to know a character takes repeated exposure as comprehensible input. So just cramming characters over and over again doesn’t necessarily help with that.

It’s worth knowing that kanji can be broken down into a few different types, each kind of demands its own approach, since they are composed differently. So here’s a rundown of each of the types:
First, 象形文字 or pictograms. These are the hard ones for people like us because they’re basically drawings of the thing they represent. Even at the N1 level, I’m still screwing up writing 馬 and 鳥 Thankfully the fewest number of characters are 象形文字, but unfortunately they are some of the most common ones. For these, you’re going to want to practice writing them until they’re part of your muscle memory. Since picturing it doesn’t work, we have to rely on the physical feel of writing it. Your recognition should go up the more you write these characters. You’ll find a lot of methods targeting beginners talk up the pictographic nature of Japanese, since the first few dozen you learn are like this. This has multiple backfires in that it discourages aphantasic people by repeatedly telling us that kanji are pictures, and by setting people up for failure when they move onto the overwhelming majority of characters that do not behave like pictures.

Second, we have 指事文字 or simple ideographs. These are more abstract simple characters, very common in the N5 and N4 range. Characters like 上下一二三, where the character is an abstract representation of the idea. Funnily, these are a little easier for us, since we can reason about them (三 is just three lines, 上 is a stick above a line, etc.) This is where the pictographic methods start to waver and where the bulk of the setup for later character types begins with other methods.

Third, 会意文字 or compound ideographs. This is where things get much easier for us and is where the majority of Kyouiku kanji are found. 会意文字 are composed of parts we’ve already learned, so this is where we can start thinking of characters less as pictures, and more as composition. The question stops being “what was the character for ‘eye’ again?” and becomes “what is the character for ‘rest’ composed of?” It’s person 人 and tree 木, so 休. Heisig and Conning’s methods absolutely excel in this block of characters.

Lastly, 形声文字 or Semasio-Phonetic characters. These are the bulk of characters toward the end of the jouyou list, and where pictographic learners really struggle, whereas we can really benefit. Right now this seems like the set of characters you’re struggling with most, characters that differ by their radical but are otherwise identical are majority this type. 形声文字 are composed usually of two parts, a radical indicating the “class” of word, and a component indicating the pronunciation of the character (the on’yomi, specifically). With these characters, reasoning becomes “it’s an animal, so beast radical 犭… and it’s pronounced ロウ (艮) so it’s 狼”. Heisig and Conning both work quite well here, though Conning has admitted that Natalie Hamilton’s “Kanji Code” does a much better job of making sense of these characters and wishes he’d incorporated those ideas more in his work.

So with all of that boiler plate, what’s my approach exactly?

First, build up a mental character inventory. Learn radicals and pictographs the same way I learned my ABCs as a child. Practicing writing them until they’re part of my brain. There’s more radicals and pictographs than there are letters in the alphabet, yes, but putting in the grind here makes later kanji much more intuitive to learn. Plus you don’t have to do all of this up front. Pick kanji for the level you’re studying for, and learn those radicals and pictographs. N5 has maybe 100 characters, about a third of which go on to become part of the latter two thirds. N4 has maybe 300 characters total (incl. the N5 ones), and the bulk of which are composed of the N5 characters and some of the earlier N4 ones.

Second, learn the way characters are composed. Generally characters are composed in a few well-defined ways, such as in columns, rows, one portion surrounding or wrapping around another, and so on. Japanese has specific terms for these, like hen and tsukuri, but just being able to recognise and break down a character into its parts and their positions is enough.

Third, start thinking of characters as characters composed of smaller characters, not pictures. You’ve already got a taste of this with Heisig, but in general, when you see a character, don’t try and see it as a pictographic whole, see it as “thread 糸 to the left, right is wings ヨ over water 水 which is pronounced ロク. That’s midori 緑” As you grow more familiar with a character you’ll start to need the composition less and less as the whole character itself becomes part of your brain’s language processing. It becomes “left 糸, right ロク so midori 緑” up as far as “ah, 緑” with no conversion step. Mnemonics are a stepping stone to get to this simpler and simpler recognition.

Lastly, kanji are not the end goal, vocabulary is. Kanji recognition actually goes up when you focus on them in context. It’s a lot harder to remember kanji in isolation. What is the difference between this kanji, and this other one with the same radical, similar meaning, but different reading? Hard to say. Much, much easier to be able to say “this is the kanji used in X word, that kanji is used in Y.” or “These two are used together to make one actual vocabulary word.”

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Wow, I’m really blown away by all of the suggestions and replies people took time to type out, thank you guys! I’m also happy to hear that some of you are in the same boat and have managed to find ways to study that worked for your aphantasia.

I think my overall takeaway is that I should spend some time focusing on radicals. Maybe this means returning to RTK, but I’ll definitely look into the Kanji Phonetics deck too! Thank you for that suggestion @homa!

This is where I start making excuses and avoiding eye contact >_> Short answer: not enough! I only really started with immersion recently, so I’ve been reading some simple manga chapters and things like NHK articles. And then I got so busy with my last semester of uni that I had to deprioritize even that.
So, I definitely need to spend more time reading. I’ve definitely held back on doing a lot of immersion because I actually thought my issues with kanji would be in way. I didn’t realize it would be exactly how I could cement them in my brain! Reading is still difficult and takes a lot of energy but I’ll do my best to incorporate it more.

I’m also gonna continue handwriting as part of practice. I like doing it and realizing I can remember a kanji well enough to write it gives me a little rush, haha.

Will do! I especially like that there’s graded readers. In general, thank you for taking the time to write out such a thought-out response. It’s been super helpful, so I’ll do my best to follow your advice!

Okay, I think that’s basically everything. I got a lot of really amazing advice from this! Again, thanks a bunch! I think I’ll really enjoy getting to learn a lot more in depth things about kanji, their radicals, and how they’re composed. I’m a linguist, so I appreciate the nerdiness lol!

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Oh, just to add, if you’re taking my KKLC recommendation. The Android app Kanji Study by Chase Colburn supports KKLC order, and has a paid add-on that includes the graded readers in-app.
If you’re on android, it’s a good addition to your study tools, but if not, the KKLC books are good enough by themselves!

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I wanted to second the Wanikani recommendation. It really does set you up for success in that each level introduces radicals, then the kanji that use them, then the vocab that use those kanji. It gives you a solid foundational knowledge. If you don’t have a ton of time to sit down and read, try listening to Japanese podcasts or other videos with Japanese subtitles on. Even if you can only glance at them here and there, it’s better reading practice than none plus listening practice! Listening, reading, and writing skills all help supplement each other and lead to a well rounded understanding of the language. You got this!

https://www.youtube.com/@kensanokaeri This is one of my favorite Youtube channels. Ken-san does vlog style videos of daily life and nature walks. He talks slowly and clearly, really easy pace to follow along with. He usually does N5-N3 content.

https://www.youtube.com/@Atashinchi You can find tons of episodes of this Japanese cartoon on Youtube, silly family daily life show

Shiori Reader is a great app for reading because you can upload whatever Japanese text you want and it won’t show any translation or furigana until you are ready for it to be revealed. I find that when I can’t hide those, my eyes automatically go to it even when I try not to, so I’m not having to use as much of my memory and brainpower to read it and reinforce it, ya know? You can select separate words or translate whole sentences, and you can also bookmark words to study later.

:slight_smile:

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Completely forgot to reply to this - thank you so much for the recommendations! These look super helpful and I’ll definitely check them out. Combining reading and listening practice sounds like a great idea.

I don’t have aphantasia and have personal doubts as to its existence. That said I also could not visualize kanji (even though I know most of if not all the jouyou)until I started writing. And even now I cannot visualize most kanji that I have not written yet. The only advantage I’ve found to visualizing kanji is that it makes similar kanji easier to remember and differentiate while reading.