Bunpro FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions

Ah. I guess this is what confuses me. Why is it problematic for people to earn unlimited XP? After all, it’s not actually a competition between users, so if someone decides to earn XP rather than learn, well so be it? :thinking:

Of course, your vision is your own and it’s not my place to pretend I have a better system in mind, but you’ve been very open to feedback, so I feel at liberty to explore the logic with you.

I wish I’d spoken to you before resetting a few hours ago :expressionless:

My guess is that because then the levels wouldn’t be a proper comparison between users.

If your EXP is not dependant on the SRS status of the grammar point, then it’s just a matter of how many reviews you have done regardless of resets or mistakes.

That’s also why when the SRS drops / become a ghost, it gives you 0 exp until you advance to a SRS status you haven’t been before.

Not sure if I explained myself too well, but hope it clarifies it sorta.

I need coffee

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Yes! :smiley: That’s precisely what I would have thought made more sense. After all, you have gained “experience” by having done reviews in the past, independent of whether the grammar point has been reset or not.

Well, sadly it’s a matter of tastes in the end, and I do rather like it how it is now.

Whether that’s what a majority feels or not is another matter though.

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Meh, I’ll live either way. Just took me by surprise is all. Probably won’t make the mistake of resetting again in the future as it feels like a lot of time that’s put in just disappears when you reset.

I think our original goal was to at some point allow people to make a public profile they can share with their friends and study buddies (and we still have plans to do that at some point). Which is why XP spoofing was something we wanted to prevent.

We really do appreciate the feedback :bowing_man:
Often the case is we implement things in a way that we think will hopefully work well. Sometimes it does and other times it doesn’t :sweat_smile: and usually in the latter case, you guys help us sort it out.

We’ll discuss XP and if we might overhaul it and to which degree we would do so. For full transparency, we have a handful of higher priority things we are working on releasing in the next couple months, so an overhaul probably wouldn’t come until later this year.

Thanks again for the feedback, and for telling us where we failed to provide adequate information, it let’s us at the very least put that information in there so that others don’t also get the same surprise.

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I think this is mostly an issue with the term “XP”. In most contexts that word is used said XP is a resource that can be generated indefinitely, while instead in Bunpro it’s a finite resource.

I’m not sure the following would be a good change, but if the “XP” on Bunpro was instead called “BP” (Bunpro Points) or something akin to that it’s possible that someone would accept a little more seeing them being taken away after a reset.

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Hi there. Could you expand on “most contexts” some more? I’m only familiar with XP as “experience points”, like in Dungeons & Dragons, where it’s something that you can gain and lose, as a means to an end, and not a goal by itself. Is this about most video gaming contexts?

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Hello hello. I was talking about disconnect between the usual concept of “Experience Point” (in roleplaying games, videogames, gamified system, etc.) and the Bunpro “XP”.

The difference that I wanted to point out is that usually (I’d say 99% of the times) “Experience Points” are gained through repeatable tasks, and potentially there is an infinite amount to be gained. It doesn’t matter if the XP can be drained by Vampires, or that there is an EXP cap that someone can reach. With a very boring DM a party could just slay indefinitely thousands of Kobolds.

Bunpro is very different: there are no repeatable tasks that generate “Experience”, instead the “XP” tally is the sum of the highest level one has ever reached in the SRS for of the grammar points they have studied. Bunpro “XP” just cannot be “grinded” in any way.

I vastly prefer the latter, but I can understand someone mistaking it for something else.

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I just want to chime in that I’m in love with the current EXP-system :heart_eyes: I feel accomplished raising it and watching it increase together with the JLPT progress. I much prefer seeing the levels as rough measures of japanese grammar ability than as a measure of how many reviews someone has done. That way I think the levels can convey more interesting information on the forums too if someone chooses to share their level publicly.

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I did this as well, and I am only just now back to where I was Two years ago.

I think that this is fine personally.

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I’m probably being stupid, but how do I reset everything? I’d like a clean slate because I tried the site out a while ago, but I’ve now subscribed.

I have a question about this - what if you keep getting new sentences incorrect and move them to ghosts, if there aren’t enough sentences will it just overflow to the first sentence as a “new” review?

How can I view this on mobile device? I don’t see XP for example.

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I believe you probably want to use their mobile app
Unless you mean the app isnt working for you

Here is a link to the forum post about the app release (they’ve been updating it or so I’m told)

The links for app download are in the first comment I believe.
Hope this helps

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Superpnut, I have the iOS app installed. I don’t see the XP points or levels.

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Did XP change? I recently got an item to adept 1 (level 4) and it gave me 100XP. Earlier today I also did about a dozen reviews on some fairly new items and got more than 1000XP.

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What’s the workflow for studying vocab? On my desktop browser, I can seemingly only go to content → vocab search and search for specific vocab. On the Android app, I can also view a list of all the N5 vocab, where I can separately add them to my reviews. But they never seem to show up as lessons. So am I meant to just pick and choose each vocab item I want to study from the list separately or am I missing something here?

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