Community Decks: A7? E1? ～んだ as vocab?

Bunpro
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Up until now, I have been using Bunpro for JLPT pretty much exclusively, but recently, as I’ve gotten some more free time, I’ve been branching out into community decks. (Check out my deck for the lyrics of Marunouchi Sadistic by Sheena Ringo if you’re interested!) Anyway, I’ve noticed that a lot of non-JLPT vocabulary, if not “unclassified” has a marker such as A1, A2, E1, E2. Could anyone tell me what those classifications are referring to?

Additionally, I’ve noticed that a lot of community decks include grammar points as “vocabulary,” like ～んだ or ～たい. Is there a reason for this? Not only for the creator choosing the “vocab” entry rather than the “grammar” entry, but for grammar to exist as a vocab card in the first place.

btw, I’m new to posting on this forum so if I did something wrong feel free to let me know! : )

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#2

Welcome to the forum!

The A in A1 etc stands for ‘additional’, with each list being beyond N1 (but not necessarily rare). I believe we have around 20 A lists at the moment, with the words slowly getting more and more obscure/being from technical fields as the lists progress.

The E lists are slated for deletion, so if you come across those at all just pretend they don’t exist :upside_down_face:.

As for community decks, users can add anything that has an entry in JMDict, the main online Japanese/English vocab database. So we don’t control anything that anyone does in that regard. A lot of grammar points are also considered vocab as far as that dictionary goes.

Hope you continue to enjoy studying vocab with us! :blush:

Quick edit - Also, anything in A lists are words we have on a waiting list to get native written example sentences. That doesn’t mean we won’t do other words, just that A lists are first priority for examples.

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#3

That makes sense! Thank you for the explanation.
–Side note I’ve really been enjoying Bunpro so thanks for your hard work!

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#4

oh no… I fear I may have some E words in my reviews…

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#5

All going well we’ll be able to swap people’s reviews to the correct A version of the card without anything being affected.

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#6

Thank you :pray: :pray: :pray:

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#7

I want to point out that even some decks made by Bunpro staff (even though they’re community decks) contain E Vocab and because veritas mentioned this same thing about E-vocab, I went and checked, and I did really find a lot of E-Vocab with no A-equivalent.

I’m sure you guys know what you’re doing though. Sounds like a tough task however to actually delete them. Good luck :partying_face:

Getting rid of E-Vocab will definitely improve the quality of the word-list importer by a lot

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#8

The only E vocab that has no A equivalent are kinda pointless phrases which we felt were better as single words, or honorific versions of stuff we already have (寿司 vs お寿司 for example).

Btw all of E vocab is Wanikani vocab that we were missing back in the day.

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#9

Do the A decks have actual deck pages like N5-N1? Is there a way to add an A deck to my reviews? I seem to recall links being posted somewhere in the forums but I can’t remember for sure.

#10

You can find links to them in this post!
Also, as an update to this thread, I saw in another thread that someone from Bunpro confirmed that all “E” vocab is gone! yay!

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#11

Thanks. Are you sure about the E decks? 四 | Bunpro is still marked as E1

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#12

Yeah I have still found some E vocabulary as well…

#13

Yeah, there are quite a few numbers which are good examples of E deck vocab.
There are many issues with the remaining E deck vocab, which I’ve been holding off on reporting, so I hope those vocab can be destroyed humanely only after replacements have been identified/made.

#14

You’re right, I just came across some E vocab too. Maybe I had some false memory of something one of the mods said :\

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#15

Yeah, I’ve heard a few different stories about what’s going on with the E vocab :thinking:

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#16

No you’re not wrong, I recall @veritas_nz saying it as well.

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#17

It’s E vocab because it’s Everlasting and because it Endures.

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#18

I know this kind of comment adds nothing to the discussion but you just cracked me up LMAO

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#19

We do still have a tiny number of duplicate vocab floating around that missed our search parameters. The E list stuff that were flagged and merged with other content (where we kept the E version) still has the E tag on.

For example we merged a duplicate that was unclassified into this 一人 | Bunpro vocab in the E list because neither had sentences yet and the E version was studied by users while the unclassified one wasn’t.

We just need to go through and change the remaining E word classification.

Maybe we will leave just one spare E word one floating around to be the Everlasting one :joy:

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#20

Obviously the chosen word has to start with E as well:

sorry is so chuuni I’m going to go hide in a corner now

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