Core2k vs Bunpro N5 and N4 vocab

im using bunpro for vocab, do you think its better to use the core2k deck or just use the bunpro n5 and n4 decks? my goal is being able to do immersion as quickly as possible.

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In that case, I’d do the core2k!

If you want to take the JLPT too, maybe do the N5/N4 decks next?
The good news is that there is lots of crossover between those decks, so you can often kill 2 birds with 1 stone!

PS

Birds, not rabbits plz :rabbit:

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Personally I use both. I found that doing the bunpro decks gives me better context of how to use the words in sentences, especially with the variety of definitions and contexts, but I also found that I wasn’t really recognizing the kanji that make up the word. So I set any vocab I learn from bunpro’s decks to “due” in the core 2k/6k/10k. The other advantage of both is that I’m getting an extra review to help keep the material memorized. It probably seems like that takes up too much time, but it honestly takes no time at all if you’ve got the material locked in from the extra reviews. It works for me anyway.

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Kaishi 1.5k

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If your only goal is immersion, a Core2k deck might be better. There is one in the community decks you can try. The N5/N4 decks got a bunch of vocab about travel (like all types of tickets, all types of trains,…) and medical stuff (IV, eye doctor, OB/Gyn) which will probably unneccessary for you. But bunpro in general comes with sentences and “read and grade” function, which I think is great for immersion. So I would suggest looking at the Community decks on here :slight_smile:

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If immersion means listening to content (not reading), then the fastest way there might be a deck focused on listening.
Front: audio+word in kanji+furigana, Back: meaning. Self-grade if you know the word
Or Front: audio+sentence in kanji+furigana, Back: meaning. Self-grade if you know every word.

I don’t think either Core2k or Kaishi by default are set up that way(?), but in Anki it’s pretty easy to reconfigure cards.
AKAIK Bunpro can only play audio after revealing the answer even if you set it up for reading with self-grade.

But if immersion means reading, then please disregard this comment :sweat_smile:

Edit: when I was starting Japanese, I didn’t think of this approach, and haven’t used any of vocabulary decks. I did make my own sentence listening deck by cutting up some anime episodes though. I still remember many of those sentences verbatim for better or worse.

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You can manually play the audio, by either clicking or pressing “P” twice, which is a work-around, but yeah.

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I’m a little biased since I did core 2k and 6k. In presentations and shared materials it is always something I recommend.

It was instrumental in building the foundation to my vocabulary. You can then supplement with Bunpro which has a bevy of really good words and phrases.

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I liked both the 2k and 6k separate decks. Would recommend either.

My preference is a deck that has:

  1. example sentences
  2. written in kanji
  3. audio
  4. i+1
    this means each sentence only includes 1 new word.
    I used Jalup (now Nihongo Lessons) Bunpro really isn’t, and there are core decks that are. I recommend getting an i+1 deck like this one:
    https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/911122782
    Then you can read all the example sentences

If you like the i+1 style, then spend the 300 dollars for 8,000 words with i+1 Japanese definitions and native audio at Nihongo Lessons.

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IMO the best deck is the one you mine yourself. Why ? Well, frequency is domain specific, so when you follow a frequency list, you might not see words that are extremely used in the domain of your specific anime.

For example, if you watch fantasy shows, you might have to wait for 10-30k to meet certain words. For an anime like bleach, 魂魄、死神、霊圧 are Rank 142k, 20k and 4k/35k (based on BCCWJ). But those two words might be Top 100 in that specific anime.

So if you’re still too new to japanese to feel at ease mining, my advice would be : Take a deck with not that many words, and try to find one with somewhat the frequency of what interest you. Core2K is based on newspaper if I’m not mistaken, so it might not be ideal for you.

Also, verbs, conjunctions, will have a lot of frequency compared to concrete noun, and noun will have the same level, which bury them very low.