As my title says; obviously I can get a rough idea by just looking and cross referencing but does anyone know off the top of their head what percentage of N3 grammar is covered by Tobira? I have finished Genki I + II, and MinnaNoNihongo paths and I’m at the N5 complete, with N4 half complete. By completing Tobira, I’m guessing that it will more than likely finish off the rest of N4 and cover most of N3?
I didn’t finish Tobira yet so I can’t say for sure. But usually Tobira is used as an N3 resource after Genki II or Minna No Nihongo. Sometimes, people struggle with the transition so they go for another N4 book.
Tobira should be enough to get you to N3 level but if you are still not confident you can always use something like Shin Kanzen Master N3 to make sure you are at N3 level.
And yes, I think most of the N3 grammar on Bunpro is from Tobira, I am still N4 level on Bunpro as well
Interesting. Do you know what most people do after completing Tobira? Is there a “primary” resource used for N2? I’m guessing N1 is mostly just native material, etc etc. Is N2 like that as well?
I’m not there yet, but most people that I’ve heard talk about studying for N2 primarily use native material and supplement with a JLPT study book, usually Shin Kanzen Master.
I think it depends on your goal, I mean how fast do you want it. At N3 level you should be fine with starting to consume native material. It’s more fun but not necessarily the fastest way to improve.
A lot of Japanese learners like to go for the JLPT exams so usually they will go for Shin Kanzen Master N2. It’s usually the go-to for N2, the second choice would be Nihongo Sou Matome N2.
I don’t care about the JLPT so I just use the sample tests on their official website to get an idea about where I am and I am not sure I will keep using textbooks after Tobira because I have no obligation to learn Japanese(just doing it for fun, I don’t live in Japan).
For N1…you gotta breath in Japanese!
I don’t really care about the JLPT. Unless sometime in the future I decided to work in Japan, I didn’t see the necessity in it. I think I might just start ripping through the core 10k vocab, do WaniKani and Bunpro, then see where I’m at by the end of next year.
I’d say Tobira covers pretty much all of N3 stuff, though I started using it after I took the N3. It also goes into a few N2 grammar points toward the end.
After N3 there’s not much textbook-y stuff but New Authentic Japanese: Progressing From Intermediate to Advanced and Aozora: Intermediate-Advanced Japanese Communication are thrown out there though I’ve never used them myself.
I was studying for the JLPT so I switched to Shin Kanzen Master, and I also used Bunpro.
Non-grammar but N2/N1 level Japanese learning would probably be things like Rapid Reading Japanese, Read Real Japanese, Breaking into Japanese Literature: Seven Modern Classics in Parallel Text, etc.
may not be a relevant question to you, but why don’t you finish N4 (and later N3) purely on Bunpro? I’ve used textbooks before, but i find the Bunpro grammar points completely sufficient without an accompanying textbook.