End of bunpro

I noticed this from the onset, but felt like it’d be hypocritical to point out given the debacle that is my username :slightly_smiling_face:

6 Likes

I love these threads so much. You never know what wild directions it will go.

9 Likes

Well good luck. If you can keep motivated you’ll probably do very well towards completing the grammar points. I still think you’re writing a check a lot larger then you could cash but that is life.

But a bit of a side note, kind of like everyone else is saying. There really is a lot more to it then just bunpro grammar. Bunpro almost halfway doesn’t teach you grammar, it more gets you familiar with grammar. So you’ll have a base understanding (and a very good one if you ask me) of the language’s devices, but it might not pass mustard.

Also just to let you know of another thing. The studying grammar does actually stop being something you hate. It becomes a bit more fun once you start being able to connect it all together. Especially if you have been trying to do some reading and getting hung up on sentences. Once you find the grammar point (I would recommend hunting around and finding them and adding them to reviews) and it clicks, is a nice feeling.

Good luck! And don’t worry I wont hold you to any claims you make

1 Like

Not sure what this fuss about learning grammar is for. The ultimate goal of learning Japanese is to have a pizza created in your honour at the local Japanese pizzeria.

13 Likes

You only truly know grammar once you’re able to understand and use it comfortably in real life settings. Bunpro is a tool to bootstrap the process but it can’t carry you all the way.

Once you’re done with N4 grammar (and maybe even earlier) you should really try to consume real Japanese content and use that to guide you. What’s really limiting you? Grammar, vocab, kanji, listening comprehension?

Learning N2 and above on Bunpro if you don’t already spend a significant portion of your study time reading real Japanese content is a waste of time IMO. You’ll learn niche constructs that you may have completely forgotten by the time you encounter them in the real world.

6 Likes

Well, there will be reviews and more grammar bunpro adding soon it seems. Also a lot of dialect focused grammar shortenings exist too-it’d be better to pick this up through reading though alongside your reviews when you finish

Sharing my experience after using this app for over a year and a half, I can assure you that you will never stop learning grammar. And even if you stop adding new terms in Bunpro, memorizing them is not the same as truly understanding them.
Like many have suggested before, the best approach is to try to learn the terms as you encounter them in the ‘wild’.
But yeah, it is totally possible to cover all the terms on Bunpro in a year and a half.

9 Likes

Do you struggle with grammar? and are you n1 and how do you manage Beginner - adept

I am curious as to what you think being N1 means and what you mean exactly by studying grammar? You will have to keep working on grammar long after N1 although whether that is by direct effort or indrect acquisition is a personal choice. Many people achieve N1 and are still bad at Japanese. I suggest looking up some of the self-evaluation reports concering JLPT results.

2 Likes

oh a year and a half? yeah you’ll definitely be at N1 by then

1 Like

I don’t know if it counts, but I had a menu item created in my name at the local Daikichi (yakitori place) when I lived in Tokyo. Basically just the regular fried chicken but with the company’s signature tomato hotsauce so that it tasted more like KFC’s zinger recipe. A few other regulars even started ordering it :rofl:. They usually only do it with salt and pepper. Such a waste of potential spicy goodness.

6 Likes

And yet when I ask for udon on top of my domino’s pepperoni pizza, they treat me like I’m weird… Truely Japan is a civilized country.

3 Likes

by n1 i mean you don’t struggle with grammar; you know most of the grammar in books or manga

1 Like

Depends on the manga and light novel, in most cases N3 with a bit of N2 is good enough…

I could be wrong thought I am quite sure that I am not… There are a few grammar points that are not in the JLPT but sometimes appear in light novels and manga. Normally I can figure it out.
After all Japanese is a language and over time it evolves and changes. Also the JLPT doesn’t include slang…

Edit: It took me 2 years or so without rushing to study and make notes on all of the grammar points on Bunpro.

2 Likes

I feel so sorry for everyone who’s studying Japanese but hates pizza :sob:

5 Likes

woohoo I’ve been here over 2 years and not yet finished N3 grammar! What a loser!

EDIT: 30 to go!

EDIT EDIT: Remembered what year it is! Over 3 years, with a memory like that it’s no surprise

15 Likes

Fair enough - can’t argue against that. Go for it.

2 Likes

Nah, one you finish N1 you never have to study it again.

I mean, look at all the perfect grammar people command in their adult life. You’ll never use AI writing programs or things like grammarly like, ever. And you’ll never need to use auto-correct for anything, even to capitalize sentences.

So yeah, in conclusion 1 and a half years to ultimate mastery.

2 Likes

Well, I’ve been here for little over a year and I just started on N4 grammar!

1 Like

on bunpro less than one year. Just started N3.

I did spend six years studying before starting bunpro though.

1 Like