I have reduced the daily intake of grammar

Japanese
#1

TLDR: I have adjusted the ratio between how much vocabulary and how many grammar points I learn a day.

I have been doing 20 new words a day and 10 new grammar points a day, but then I have thought for myself: is this balanced? Thus I have calculated it and have realized that 10 new grammar points is too fast if I am learning 20 new words a day, because there are less grammar points than words. I think the best ratio is 20 new words a day and 5 new grammar points a day and even then, I will finish grammar sooner than my Anki deck for vocabulary. But I think 5 new grammar points a day is fine as is 20 new words a day.

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#2

You’ve been sharing a lot about your journey recently and I enjoyed reading about your thoughts so far :slight_smile: How about you make your own study log? I would be reading it :slight_smile:

In my opinion, vocab is more important than grammar, so your balancing works out. Personally I do 15 vocab and 3 grammar a day. But that wouldn’t be a pace I would enjoy in the long run. I’m more the kind of person who likes to switch up the pace, going fast for a while, then going slow again.

You switched your pace quite often, too, as far as I can see. How many teviews a day are you getting now?

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#3

I think it’d be good if I made a post where I would share my experiences, mistakes and opinions. I learn multiple languages, so I have many experiences and mistakes.

#4

I think my brain would melt at that pace! Hahaha

I talk multiple languages but I find Japanese very hard to learn and memorise sometimes. I started doing something like you, but i quickly find out that my brain could not assimilate all that information and I was just struggling and getting frustrated. Now I do 10 grammar, 25 vocabulary a week, maybe I add some more vocabulary if that week is easy, and I combine it with other apps, like WaniKani, Anki, Duolingo and reading.

This is not a critique, it’s a word of admiration, I envy how people can learn so quick and actually remember all that information. I like learning languages, I guess I’m just not good at it, but that ok! hahaha

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#7

Maybe you focused less on apps and more on actual immersion you would actually see more results.

25 vocabulary is way too much do like 5-10 a day. Grammar point 3-4 is enough.
You really don’t need WaniKani and especially not Duolingo… Duolingo is literally just a scam app.

#8

I do 25 per week, not per day. And do I immersion, I watch shows in Japanese and I listen to podcasts, apart from reading. I cannot dedicate more time.

I know Duolingo is not great, but I started with it and now I have 1331 days streak and my obsessive behaviour wouldn’t allowed me to lose it :sweat_smile: Actually, It also help me to memorise Kanji, and the sentence composition tasks are a good practice for the JLPT exam. So, I don’t consider it that bad if you are studying grammar somewhere else.

What is your method of learning?

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#9

I only use Duolingo for German. I want to try how bad it truly. Seems people are right. I spend around the same time in it as in Anki/Bunpro for Japanese. I am learning German for longer and it’s basically an easy language compared to Japanese. Guess what language I am more comfortable in.

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#10

I really don’t think 20 a day is unreasonable. A lot of people can do it.

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#11

Finishing all the grammar with little to no vocab is also very valid. Especially when reading books where a few thousand words are not playing a big role

#12

Haha, you’re probably right, especially with all those tools you (and many others) are using. All those fancy setups were a click will not only translate the word, but even give you nice anki cards make my head fuzzy :sweat_smile: But in such cases, grammar is probably way more important than vocab :slight_smile: I just could never… :sweat_smile:

Makes one admire how many different ways of language learning and how many different kinds of language learners are out there :slight_smile:

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#13

I find being able to read the sentence quickly helps with understanding because there are certain natural breaks that don’t show up in the sentence explicitly but help a lot with understanding. Using a tool like yomitan disrupts the natural breaks and can make sentences harder to understand.

#14

So true!