Japanese Study Plan for my Sister

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So my little sister asked for help learning Japanese. below is a summery from Japanese The Moe Way. My additions are in italics. There is some ‘my own pace’ in the optional section

Task 時間以上 Potentially Useful Things Link
Kana 5 Do This First https://kana-quiz.tofugu.com/ or learn kana Using Anki Reading Cards
listening 10 Anime audioNihongo Con Teppei, Genki audio CD Using Anki Listening Cards
Grammar 15 Genki, CureDolly, Bunpro, Classes, Tae Kim Chapter Overview – Learn Japanese
Vocab 20 Every Day. Learn 500 vocab words Releases · donkuri/Kaishi · GitHub ankiweb.net/shared/info/917377946 or ankiweb.net/shared/info/911122782
Speaking 10 We have 10 hours of conversation class https://www2.aia.pref.aichi.jp/koryu/resource/class/jpclass.pdf
Optional:
kanji optional extra kanji practice Kanji Kingdom, JPDB, wanikani or Kanjidamage
発音 optional Pronouciation Dogen, shadowing
mining optional Hord words https://www.languagereactor.com/ https://jpdb.io/
shadowing optional read outloud along with Japanese Subs. Language Reactor

UPDATE: She is using flashcards with Front: Anime Audio Back: Romanji, Tae Kim’s excerpt ankiweb.net/shared/info/911122782 This deck puts Hiragana+kanji front, same back in a seperate folder. This +Japanese class 2 hours a week with minna no nihonngo textbook at the community center will be her first 1000 minutes. I told her once she has studied for 1000 minutes, you level up and unlock a dungeon (order at a resturantとか) and upon compleation you get new equipemnet (鉢巻など )
I will give another update when she has studied for 1000 minutes

task minimum Resources link
Vocab 20 same as above
Grammer 15 same as above
Listening 10 Japanese Youtube Unlocked
Class 10 same
Optional:
mining optional Study them after you finish n5, can collect them now Mining - Immersion-Based Japanese Learning
listening optional leave バラエティー番組 or streamers on to tune in and out
発音 optional same

Below is the wrap up part of usagi spoon

200-300
Vocab 20 Finish n5 Vocab if you haven’t already
Grammar 15 Finish n5 Grammar if you haven’t already
reading 5 try a manga or satori reader
kanji 10 start studying kanji if you havent already

Optional is same as before

Wow 300 hours. Congrats! I think 1 year is good time to reach 300 hours (an hour a day, 6 days a week)

With a to do list of:

Task 300-500 Tip Link
Reading 15 Read manga or website ect
mining 20 TV, manga, VNect
Vocab 40 study from mining deck(Or Japanese Definitions)
Study 30 Study N4, Genki 2, Bunpro https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1013111837
Kanji 20

and 100 hours free time

Finally, this what I am doing now (I passed the N4, Failed the N3). Not taken from Usagi Spoon.

Task 500-1000 Tip Link
Vocab 100 Studying from mining deck or Japanese definitions
Japanese definitions 50 Mine cards with Japanese definitons thesaurus.weblio.jp or Nihongo Lessons
Immersion 200 TV, Manga, Games, Movies, YouTube
Grammar Optional N3-N1
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#2

I feel like this is really over structured lol. I went fast but not by following a schedule like this. Just ticking off one item at a list at my own pace (which ended up being pretty quick luckily anyways)

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your post reminds me of this meme a lot ahahah.
The method is great, it might be a bit overwhelming for someone who never touched the language even once, as long as your sister is motivated, she’ll improve a lot by following this scheme !

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#4

Thanks for sharing your plan! Is your sister someone that enjoys such structures and tasks?

Personally, I don’t vibe with the moe approach, which is weird, since my only goal is immersion.

Which pretty much sums up my opinion, for most people it’s a way too hardcore and stringent approach. But some do pretty well with it.

Hope your sister likes this plan :slight_smile: If not you can always figure out what suits her best :slight_smile:

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you forgot the 200 hour period of getting mad at yourself for reading 日/生 wrong again.

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If she’ll be using Bunpro anyway, she can use GoKana for the alphabets :wink:

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The amount of times I’ve confused 本日 and 日本 is honestly embarassing.

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That’s why I changed it to “per 100 hours of studing” Instead of “Per month”. My Japanese class reached 100 hours in 2 school years.

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I’m in this picture!

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So I added romanji to the Katana deck, and set up kaishi 1.5k for her. I put
Audio, hiragana, kanji and image on the front
Front + romanji and remarks back on the back.
She has studied for 20 minutes and learned 30 words so far.

I asked her to watch frieren - she has already seen, I haven’t- in Japanese. She doesn’t want to. She is picking up Japanese from making Japanese friends.

The Japanese teacher said she needs to learn hiragana before the first class on April 20th. Should be doable.

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妹は日本語妹で書くとおすすめだった。妹は来年日本の国際大学入りたいと言った。だけど入学願書[JLPT-5級相当以上の日本語能力を証明する資料。]と書いた。厳しいだね？募集期間は㋉㏾まで…間に合わないで怖い。今年の七月の日本語能力試験(JLPT)必要があります。ならなけらば令和九に学校へ入る。
ひらがながまだ覚えていない。暗記「アンキ」カードのテンプレートは前リスニングがある。裏ローマン字と英語で文法の説明がある.
これはリスニングと文法とアンキ。残りは書くと話す練習。一30分の一日一緒に書く練習。アンキでローマン字で覚えたの単語ひらがなで書く。水曜日と日曜日コミュニティーの日本語授業に入る。100分の一日頑張って！！
My sister said I should post on the forum in Japanese.
Current plan. Anki has example sentence audio on the front and grammar explanation abridged from Tae Kim’s guide on the back. This counts as grammar, listening and anki. In addition class at the community center Sundays and Language Exchange Wednesdays. Last I’ll make her do Genki drills 30 minutes a day.
This is a bit strict- but I think she can pass JLPT N5 this year
The anki deck she is using is by “Japanese Like a Breeze” it’s called something like “Japanese i+1 based on Tae Kim’s guide”
This still fits in Practice Kana, Listening, Grammar and Anki paradime.

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Unsure if you were asking for any input, so apologies if its unwelcome but I had a couple things I wanted to put my two cents on. I understand its from the moe way, but still thought I’d add some input. Firstly, while having some form of structure is nice, I think it’s important to not live and die by the times as it prevents you from allocating time where it’s needed, imo most notably grammar and vocab. If she needs to spend more time on Anki because she particularly struggles with vocab then I think allowing more time for that is a good idea.

Also, for 300-400 hour mark, theres 30 hours for immersion and only 15 for studying grammar, which is only N4. I don’t think someone should be spending double their time on immersion if they’re only studying N4 grammar, as imo you don’t get a ton of benefit out of immersing that soon. I think she would just be better off focusing on grammar and vocab until she’s at least finished n4 stuff. At the very least, I’d even out the times but for sure not double the time.

Again just my opinion so by all means feel free to disagree! I personally value a foundation for grammar and vocab before early immersion, as the material is easy enough that you don’t really need immersion to reinforce what few concepts you’ve studied so far.

As for listening, while native material is important, something like Dogen’s pronunciation course can really help build solid foundations for understanding pronunciation and pitch accent. Preventing bad habits early on helps a lot so you don’t have to go back and correct those mistakes later on.

Last thing, which I’m not sure if I’m misinterpreting or just don’t really understand. For the first 100 hours it says for anki “Every day. Learn 300 vocab words.” I’m going to assume it means after the 20 hours of your first 100 hours you should know 300 words, but I find that to be inexplicably low. After 20 hours you should know way more than 300 words, but also by 100 hours imo you should have spent more time on vocabulary as well. Ik I sound like a broken record but early on a solid chunk of grammar and vocab really kickstarts things so I think getting those numbers up is the most important.

All in all, wishing her luck and hope she enjoys the journey! Sorry for the yap!

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OK So we agree on alot.

あたしはアンキアプリで4114単語（ノート）５００時間かかった。この平均の率が使った。

期間があれば心配しなくてもいい

はい! 私も！100-200時間の時三分の一[immersion]日本語の聞き練習。300時間速い？
The 300 words for 20 hours of anki is based off my own review hours/mature notes ratio. What is yours?

I agree, That’s why I only allocated 50/100 hours
I also think a good basis is important. I’ll worry about the 300-400 section- when it gets closer. Maybe she will have a good basis to start immersion then, maybe not.
How many hours do you think you should study Japanese before you start immersion?

Ah, this one I disagree with. I need enough Japanese to understand/be understood. Bad pitch acent sounds incorrect- (うみのかきvs果物のかき)… and that’s the only time someone misunderstood me because of my accent.
pitch accent, stroke order, Japanese essay structure, Japanese history, (even kanji radicals, tho I love them so…) are all interesting things that will help your knowlage of Japanese… but are not requried to understand or be understood therefore, they are optional

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today’s Japanese mistake is brought to you by the kanji 本 and 日

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Today I made some updates in responce to this comment:
I have another question

You are not the first person to say it includes ‘too much structure’.
Is the problem is that I included an hours column?

The structure is “study at least 5 hours of Kana, 10 hours listening, 15 Grammar, 20 Vocab (50 hours) within your first 100 hours studying” The order doesn’t matter as long as those 4 things get done.
Tips and Links are ‘Things I think could potentially be useful to do the task’ totally optional