Major Update! - December 3, 2018

Bunpro
#4

@Omun Thank you for your comment and feedback! We understand that streaks can have a demotivational aspect to them and this was one of the reasons that we did not include any streak notifications or anything too flashy. We also just wanted to make streak information available to you so that we could get your feedback on how to best improve and tune them to you. We do not currently have a way to toggle streak information, but it is something that we can look into. Let us know what you think about the Focus feature after you have used it a bit. Cheers!

@Andulien Thank you for your feedback! We are glad that you like badges! Right now you can only get XP once for a sentence. Since Ghost Reviews use a sentence that you have already reviewed and gained XP for, you cannot earn additional XP on them. However, XP is still in its early stages and we can always make changes to how it functions.

We hope that you like the Focus feature and the readjusted review progress bar!

We will see what we can do about perhaps pausing streaks or making them toggleable in the future. We are also working on getting everyone’s level displayed on the forums. Stay tuned! Cheers!

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#5

I’m really liking these additions to the website. Great work!

I also agree that the level should be displayed in the forum, if that’s possible.

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#6

This is brilliant! I always find myself more motivated to study with achievements so I hope to see more added soon.

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#7

Can we have the level indications on the forums as well?

#8

What about for the last SRS on a ghost review? Just as a little “woo, it’s gone, you did it!” sort of thing?

ps love this update :3

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#9

Well at least on the first Ghost Kill you get a badge for it hehe I’m curious to find out what other Badges one can attain as they seem to be hidden :wink:

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#10

This is fantastic! thank you. I love a good exp tracker and hidden challenges!

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#11

Great update! I’ve been using BunPro everyday for several weeks and it keeps getting better.
I also have mixed feelings about the streak and how it can become demotivating in a blink of an eye, if you miss a day. I’ll try to stay on top of it, since I use it everyday, regardless.

I, too, have the example of Duoling’s streak, which is still active from the very beginning and marks my days of learning Japanese so far (126), so I don’t want to lose it. It’s a psychological thing, I guess, but quite motivating if you stay on top of it. One of the first things I do when I turn on my phone in the morning is to do my daily goal.

Happy studies, 皆さん :wink:

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#12

When I first lost my year-and-a-half streak on iKnow, it crushed all of my motivation.

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#13

Awesome update! Too bad the daily streak starts from 3 days ago because I’ve been doing >20 items every day for just over a month.

This should give some more motivation to go back and drill old reviews using the cram feature.

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#14

Can’t imagine that. I have a 126 day-streak on Duolingo and I’m afraid of what’d happen to my motivation if I lost all that. But a one year and a half… It must’ve been hard to recover from that, but you’re here, so that’s a good sign :wink:

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#15

Can I remove the xp bar when doing reviews? I find it distracting.

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#16

Well I’m not using iKnow anymore, mostly because I didn’t think I was getting enough value out of it. But I still use WaniKani and Bunpro and read books/manga in the WaniKani book clubs. :slight_smile:

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#17

Perhaps there could be a “gamify” option in the settings? For those more casual or who aren’t into the idea, they can just toggle the whole system off?

As an aside, I’m just gonna ignore the daily streak and focus on XP. It’s too disheartening for me when I miss a day, but I know some people can enjoy it or really need it, which is why it’s there. :slight_smile:

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#18

I suppose you could use the new ‘Focus’ setting in the dropdown menu for reviews.

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#19

This is awful. The focus toggle is not a reasonable solution, because the menu is actually something I need. I was enjoying my trial and was excited to subscribe long term, but these video game distractions kill my desire to study.

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#20

@Liras348 and @greasyButter Thank you both for your comment and kind words! We are working on getting the levels integrated into the forums so that they are displayed alongside your profile picture. Stay tuned. Cheers!

@Ambo100 Thank you for feedback! We will continue to update the available achievements and are open to any suggestions that you might have. Cheers!

@Feythelus Thank you for your feedback! Please let us know if there is anything that we can do to improve your experience. Cheers!

@Gabrielmpf and @seanblue Thank you for your feedback on streak. We will continue to tinker with it to see if we cannot find a better way to implement it. Cheers!

@PeterWhite Thank you for your comment! Currently the streak tracker is based on UTC. It keeps track of whenever the last review was, rounded down to midnight so any review within the 24 hour period after 0:00 am counts as a review for that day. We are working on tracking when you do a review just within the last 24 hours, regardless of timezone, so your streak might get a little boost here soon. Cheers!

@conan Thank you for your suggestion on adding the ability to turn of the gamify aspect of the site. It is something that we are looking into. Cheers!

@Swinter Thank you for your feedback. We are looking into ways to better tune, or simply turn off the new features so that you can continue to use Bunpro in a way that works best for you. We are also thinking about implementing a keyboard shortcut to more easily toggle focus mode so that you have more immediate access to the menu items you desire. Cheers!

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#21

I love the XP feature! Always like gamifying my studies.

A few concerns though:

If XP is tied only to getting a sentence right the first time, then that means there’s only a set amount of XP available in total, based on how many sentences there are per grammar point. And, if like you said, ghost reviews don’t count towards XP, then if you ever get a sentence wrong enough to the point it becomes a ghost review then you’ll never get XP for that sentence.

Also, if we have already marked some grammar points as have already been learned then we also lose out on all that potential XP since we’ll never have sentences for those points to review.

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#22

@Pushindawood: @Swinter’s comment is something I strongly agree with. I find the new XP bar distracting and frankly, not useful (to me). However, I often search the Grammar section or go to the forums via the menu during reviews, so setting focus to “on” is incredibly inconvenient.

EDIT: Plus I still want to see how many reviews I have left in the session. Yet another reason I don’t want to turn this focus thing on.

EDIT 2: Wow, and also a big “level up” animation while I’m doing reviews… Incredibly distracting…

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#23

Yeah, same here, have like 15+ since early sept. Oh well, I’ll probably end up hiding my streak eventually when the option comes up anyway, to avoid worrying about breaking it :stuck_out_tongue:

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