Mining expectations and Question

Japanese
#1

Sup yall, its finally time for me to start sentence mining(For me and my personal interests.) Its always been floating around in the back of my head but since I was using the 2k Deck which I like so it wasnt ever a big issue.

Now, a lot of the new words I acquire and try to keep come from reading and the day to day conversations I have. So for the most part “watch anime and download like 6 extensions to streamline the process” wont work for me as well just due to my lifestyle. Maybe Ill start reading online but I much prefer physical media.

Anyway, was looking around and Ive currently got a little method that will work for me and I can make a new card about every minute or so. I even found a method that I could make a bunch SUPER quick with relative ease.(Comes with the lack of not choosing the audio for the sentence so it can get a bit Dicey quick depending) But the MAIN ISSUE I run into is that I would like the reading of of the Kanji on its own as well. Im basically coping the 2k method

Kanji>Audio and English
Audio> Kanji and English
English>Kanji and Audio
Sentence> Sen Audio and English
Sen Audio> Sentence and English

Now, I have a way to easily strip everything I need EXCEPT Audio of the vocab on its own. Does anyone know of an easy way to find and import that? Or is part of mining on ones own is that I begin to only hear the word via sentences?

Finally, any other expectations I should set for myself? I dont think they are to high as it stands but mistakes yall think you made in the beginning?

#2

I’ve never done mining so I could be super offbase here but I wonder why not just look up the word on bunpro and add it? Is sentence mining different? I’m sorry I am kinda ignorant about the process

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#3

Are you using Anki as your flashcard program? You don’t say how you are generating your cards (yomitan?), but is there a reason why one of the TTS add-ons wouldn’t work here? You might not have a field that just isolates the kanji in question, but it shouldn’t take too long to manually type/cut and paste it in, if so.

Anyway, I agree with cafelatte, why not use bunpro’s vocabulary cards instead? I used to create my own cards for years, but I realised I was spending too much time doing that, versus actually studying and enjoying the language.

#4

@cafelatte @theremeene

The main issue I have with Bunpro is that I want every single type of card listed. That means each word gives me 5 different cards. JUST reading the card, with or without the sentence simply is not enough for me to remember. I constantly forget the word when I read it. But when Im studying the word and I have to use it like 5/6 times spaced throughout the other words in other ways it just sticks that much better. I use bunpros Vocab mostly as a massive backlog that if Im bored Ill read the sentences and see if a word is used in a way I dont quite understand. I have several other issues but they all relate to Bunpro not being a vocab/kanji application Primarily. I love it to keep on top of my Grammer and will continue to do so. So no fault on the team there.

As for generating cards, again, Im a physical media person. I found an Anki add-on. I manually put in the Kanji and my English Translation/meaning and then the add-on will input audio, a sentence, the english sentence, and a picture from whatever drama its taking from. I can choose if its just one word but multiple words anything seems to be free game.

As for the time this will take, Im taking a break from Grammar for a couple months and doing nothing but reviewing to better cement that into my head before carrying on. As such, While I finish up the Core 2k deck, I want to start adding in 15/20 new words a day that seem useful and I would be using on the daily so the time spent studying grammar will just be shortened into card creation. I have language enjoyment and language studying separated as two separate tasks so thats not a big issue.

Once I start studying Grammar again Ill probably drop it down to 5 or just pick up the vocab from the book Im using (I probably should review some Genki Vocab since it does have useful words tbh)

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#5

you can try

I use the sentence audio without separate word audio, but someone else who does recommended these sites

#6

So, I’m still relatively new - and I know this has certainly been asked a million times. But does someone have a link to a resource (or a prior post) that explains how to mine sentences from other media into Anki? I know there’s all sorts of tools and add-ons and what-not - but I’m not particularly adept at doing stuff like that, and it would be really helpful to find an explainer on how to set that up.

I’m starting to move into more immersion, and I know there’s all sorts of tools that can help you pull words/sentences from digital books or video…but I haven’t the first clue how to go about doing that.

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#7

If you have never used anki before I recommend

  1. use a premade deck. I used kanjidamage, Japanese like a breeze, AJT Kanji transition. You can mine, but don’t add it to your reviews until you finish N5.

  2. Modify a pre-made deck
    Download a deck from ankiweb or mediafire
    change the note type and card template

  3. use and add on
    Japanese Like a Breeze or Yomichan or subs2srs
    Japanese Like a Breeze and subs2srs both mine from DVDs
    Yomichan mines from text in browser. Also the Japanese support add on to add furigana ルビーが使わずにwithout using ruby.

  4. Add notes. An automatic card miner unfortunately can’t learn Japanese for you. I look stuff up on weblio thesaurus, ichi.moe then bunpro for grammar, kanshudo for vocab

  5. delete delete delete.
    there are like 4 words in the sentence that you don’t know - delete
    The sentence is too easy - delete
    There’s background noise so it’s hard to understand - delete
    It’s just yelling or sound effects - delete

  6. Learn some HTML.
    Add a hint field, hiragana on hover, add a stroke order font,
    use css and the card template to implement it
    export to csv and mass edit the card fields ect.
    This does mean spending some time on w3 schools and reading the anki manual.

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#8

Thank you so much! Yomichan sounds like exactly what I need. I’ve been trying to read text in materials like graded readers and NHK Easy, and being able to load the vocab easily into anki decks will help with that.