@Melanthe
Hey
This grammar point is already on bunpro:
We will replace the wrong lesson in the tobira path
Cheers!
@Melanthe
Hey
This grammar point is already on bunpro:
We will replace the wrong lesson in the tobira path
Cheers!
@mrnoone hey, sorry to ping you, but I just wanted to ask if what I’m posting here is useful to you guys
I spend quite some time specifically compiling that list of grammar points, so I just want to know if it makes any sense for me to continue with it or not.
I.e. is this useful to you in any way, or are you not planning to use points from this list anyway and will only limit yourself to the grammar points present in formal textbooks?
Thanks! Perhaps related to the search bug that I couldn’t find it, hehe
Two entries from Tobira ch. 13 that are not on Bunpro. Not sure I’d class them as grammar in the first place, but I thought I’d mention them anyway:
And here are some missing grammar points from ch. 14:
And here is chapter 15.
This one corresponds somewhat, but is not listed in the Tobira path.
This one has a grammar point associated with it, but it’s not in ch. 15 of the Tobira path (though it is in 6, for some reason it’s in Tobira twice). It’s also slightly lacking, as it only mentions the ‘both… and…’ meaning, not the ‘some… others…’ meaning.
I noticed the てしかたがない and て以来 grammar points are the wrong way round in the Tobira path. てしかたがない comes first in the book.
I also believe this grammar point is missing:
In chapter 10, there is this usage of という:
But in the Tobira path, there is just the normal ‘quoting something’ という. None of the example sentences show this particular ‘hearsay’ usage of it where it is at the very end of the sentence.
We have 〜てほしい, but not 〜てもらいたい and 〜ていただきたい. There is a note about 〜てもらいたい on the 〜てほしい page, but I’d love separate grammar points for those, so that we can practise with those sentences (otherwise I’ll just end up forgetting ).
Shin Kanzen Master N3 Bunpou also lists 〜(さ)せてもらいたい, 〜(さ)せていただきたい and 〜(さ)せてほしい (p. 44). One could argue that they are superfluous and easy to figure out if one already knows 〜てほしい, 〜てもらいたい and 〜ていただきたい. Here too, though, I would argue that the more practice the better!
I came across an expression ending with “かよ.” The sentence was お前かよ。(It was translated as “Seriously, you too?”.) I couldn’t find this grammar point in bunpro, but the search bar doesn’t always work properly for me. I found an explanation here and here, but it would be nice to have it in bunpro.
Any news on this?
This is consolidated under なくはない since they are interchangeable and I believe both entries are excepted.
Sentence-final こと for cautioning/instructing (Shin Kanzen Master N3 Bunpou p. 46) also seems to be missing.
I’ve seen that one, but こと and ことだ are presented as two different grammar points in the Handbook of Japanese Grammar Patterns:
(p. 120)
(p. 124)
On which note, there are also two つもりだs listed in that book. One for intention (which is on Bunpro), but also one for conviction:
(p. 253)
It would be nice to get practice with both kinds.
This is consolidated under [こと], see orange text (https://www.bunpro.jp/grammar_points/98). I suppose a choice whether to make every nuance a 12 sentence entry or not. Would be great to have the note in the entry and not just select sentences.
I thought book examples were reasonably clear given the context but would be nice to be reminded in BP examples just to know the grammar point can be used this way. Again, probably a choice on entries… I want to say that have been some later example sentence that have use the nuance as describe here but that is impossible to search. But this was a N5 entry so they kept example sentence as simple as possible. It would be nice feature to parse grammar points in the whole sentence library on BunPro (not just intended entry) for broader examples.
As a general rule, I’d rather err on the side of having too many separate grammar points than too few. If too many usages are consolidated into a single grammar point, you might only get ‘tested’ on each individual usage two or three times. It kind of breaks the SRS, because you’re not actually spaced-repeating that particular usage at that point. I’d rather just get 12 sentences per usage, so that I can be sure I will actually remember it.
Up to this point (N5-N4) Bunpro has been really good for helping me remember all the grammar points, but now that I am using SKM N3 I am running into a lot of limitations. There isn’t enough granularity for me right now. Too many things that I would like to practice with are only available in the form of little notes in the grammar info.
I cannot find ちょっと even though it is quite a common word.
Informal non past + んじゃなかった. From what I’m reading, it means “I shouldn’t have done x.”
Something felt a little bit off when I was reading a sentence with this grammar point and I almost overlooked it in a sentence structured similar to 食べるんじゃなかったか, which threw me off because of the tense mixing because I thought it was saying something like “I will eat, didn’t I?” which makes no sense.
To add to the list, while we do have なんて・なんか grammar point, I feel like it could be expanded to cover more of it’s meaning such as it’s 例えば meaning and meaning when placed at the start or end of a sentence.
A separate entry for this use of きり:
[There is another construction, Verb[stem] + きり/っきり, meaning “only (verbing)”]
I’m using 新完全マスター in class, and I try to load the grammar points into BunPro a week or so in advance.
But, quite a few grammar points that are not yet available.