Missing grammar list

Bunpro
#70

I completely agree, there could be “N0” level :slight_smile: Or call it “reality” like in WK :slight_smile:

However, there are many grammar points that are technically not part of JLPT but they are so incredibly common that putting off learning them is just silly. Example of that would be a lot of grammar points that I myself have included in the first message of this topic. Many of the things on that list I encounter daily while reading manga, and you can imagine if that stuff is in manga it’s definitely not super complex literary grammar only seen in genji monogatari first edition :slight_smile:

So, maybe there could be an alternate path that follows frequency and usefullness, rather than JLPT order. Then I’d switch to that patch myself, rather than continuing using JLPT as the main path (as long as it includes ALL grammar points that exist on the site).

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#71

こともある might also be a good inclusion.

Edit: Never mind it’s in https://bunpro.jp/grammar_points/222

Could use another example sentence or two though.

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#72

Ah, I like N0. Gives an idea of being “beyond” N1, but still feels approachable if you market it right. Then perhaps Bunpro would start being the one people reference in terms of non-JLPT grammar. :eyes:

(This is so much work when N1’s not even done. I’m so sorry, Bunpro team. ^_^;)

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#73

Came across なんて doesn’t seem to have a listing
http://maggiesensei.com/2013/09/02/how-to-use-なんてnante/

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#74

なんて is covered here:
https://bunpro.jp/grammar_points/296

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#76

Will Kansai dialect things be added to Bunpro? Perhaps as a lesson?

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#77

yes please

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#78

～て このかた

ばかりか is not found when searched but contained in ばかりでなく

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#79

Noun + だけは
I came across it a few times in some manga and I thought it meant only/just just like regular だけ but it seems to mean “at least” in some capacity.

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#80

please add あっという間に as a separate grammar point

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#81

I’ve been hoping for a miscellaneous non-N section for a while as others have mentioned above. For those interested and members, I published an expressions/idiom companion deck in Kitsun recently based on the title book of 180 common expressions. I’m using Kitsun’s dictionary build and productive input features+ key expression audio and book has the full conversations for context (with audio) so I encourage both for those interested. I attempted to give notes on context for necessary items as well.

I suppose there is a fine line between grammar point/expression/idiom but there are certainly differences and don’t know if BP needs to have 12 sentence levels per each point (though would still welcome them). Something like あっという間に or あわよくば are definitely expressions (which I just added to the deck). Many of these function as basic grammar, just idioms can be ironic/funny or have historical cultural origin than may seem abstract. Given how common these are, I’m trying to reshape my studies to include them better.

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Japanese idiomatic expressions「慣用句・四字熟語」
#82

Surprised there isn´t a “Sbd のこと” meaning “about Sbd” grammar point on BP. I see and hear it all the time.

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#83

really? i know for sure that it at least once existed

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#84

～ほどだ・だった・である

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#85

I went through 日本語総まとめ文法N2 and those are the points that bunpro does not have yet
～VようかVるまいか
Vる・Vた・Nの 折には
くせにー＞くせして
っぽなし
ちなみに
A。ただしB
A。ただB
それはそうと
Nをたよりに

but wanikani does not cover that much. i feel like every day at university i come across some kanji not covered in wanikani that the author did not even think to include furigana for.

I am the only one answering to this thread so i have to keep editing this message

ＮもあればＮもある／ＶこともあればＶこともある

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#86

I came across だの grammar which isn’t in Bunpro yet, https://jlptsensei.com/learn-japanese-grammar/だの～だの-dano-dano/

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#87

ないでもない

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#88

There doesn’t appear to be anything for っす which seems to be a weird slangy version of です that can be used even with verbs.

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#89

It seems there are many common contractions of frequently used words. I suppose a note about this could be included for the です grammar point though.

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