N1 Update! - November 19, 2020

The third batch of N1, Lesson 3 is here!

たる(に) - to be (in a position of), as a, for

(の)なら〜で - if ~ should, before ~ should

をものともせず(に) - making nothing of, ignoring, in defiance of, regardless of, disregarding

にはたらない - no need to, cannot, not worth it to, not suitable

ものと - think that, believe that, expect that, have confidence that, absolutely

Cheers, and stay safe!


October 19, 2020

The second batch of N1, Lesson 3 is here!

が最後 - once, now that, as soon as

いかなる - what kind of, no matter what kind of, no … (with a negative verb); any… (with a negative verb)

なりに・なりの - in ones/its own way, of someone’s own, do ones best in one’s own way, as much as one can

Verb[passive] + ままに - do as (one is told/ordered…), in accordance with, in compliance with, just like

にまつわる - surrounding, related/relating to, associated with, connected to


August 26, 2020

The first batch of N1, Lesson 3 is here!

からある・からいる - as much as, as many as, at least

にして② - to be ~ and ~, to be ~ as well as ~, both ~ and ~

つ〜つ - two contrasting actions

くまでも② - just, only merely, strictly

であれ〜であれ - whether or, or, no matter which, in either case


August 9, 2020 Update

The fourth and final batch of N1, Lesson 2 is here!

にしてみたら・にしてみれば - for, in the case of, if A were to look at it, in the eyes of A

だの - things like, and so on, or something, and whatnot

くまでも - to the (bitter) end, stubbornly, persistently

- for the purpose of, in order to, to ensure

ところ(を) - when, while, in spite of (the circumstances), regardless of (the circumstances)


July 16, 2020 Update

The third batch of N1, Lesson 2 is here!

〜たまでだ - just, merely・simply, only

を経て - via, through, after (experience at job/university/etc.), pass through

ながらに - while ~ing, born (with), traditional, as always

たなり・なり - while… ~ing, remaining, not/ever since, keep/leave

の極み - ultimate, extreme, utter, epitome, peak

P.S. @Melanthe We have also added the last missing Tobira grammar point!

〜かは〜によって違う・〜かどうかは〜による - depends on, changes depending on, differ depending on - Tobira Chapter 1・Bunpro N3, L3


July 1, 2020 Update

The second batch of N1, Lesson 2 is here!

をもって - as of, with, effective from

とはいえ - though, although (I admit that), be that as it may, nonetheless

ならでは - unique to, only, impossible if not, expected only of

ですら - even

あっての - exist only because of/due to, owe everything to


June 3, 2020 Update

からする - about, or more, over, starts at

にして① - at, over, in, only (after/when/because)

ものを - but, although, if only, I wish I had

であれ - even if, even, no matter

をおいてほかに〜ない - no…but, nothing else but, none other than

からする - about, or more, over, starts at

We hope that everyone is staying safe.

Cheers!

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Great! I was waiting for that. Thank you very much.

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I don’t mean to spoil the party or whatever they say, since I’m also very happy that you started adding N1 grammar, but…

Even current 12 example sentences are too few while N1 has even less than that, as few as just 6. So, I would really like if you can first finish existing grammar points in N1 before adding new ones (such that all have 12, like lower levels). So that we can actually get any use out of it. I intentionally wait and not study any N1 grammar because it has too few example sentences right now.

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Thanks for this update! I’ve been looking forward to more N1 material.

Personally I disagree with @Kuromaku… I would prefer you focus on adding more grammar points first and bulk up the number of sentences later. Obviously more examples is always better, but we can start learning from a grammar point with only a few sentences, especially since the Self Study option lets us add more. But if the grammar point is not even in the system, there’s nothing to learn.

In fact, I would prefer if you just make all the grammar points available as soon as possible, even without sentences. That way I could at least start using the platform to study them with Self Study.

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well thats okay but bunpro has since time beginning always started with fewer sentences and only after some lessons were done they added more sentences

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Here is the interval chart for those curious. I guess one could potentially burn all 6 sentence-N1 grammar points within a week though most mortals will have some ghosts to deal with…unless these sentence have been restructured to fit a different SRS interval given the number of sentences.

I’ve got plenty of other lessons to work on but I’ve added a few N1 lessons just because I’ve encountered them.

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This

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Thanks for the update! I’ve been eagerly awaiting more N1 grammar, and totally agree with @catlife that I’d prefer more grammar first. Speaking of, I can’t help but wonder when the final Future Grammar (未) point か~は~による in N3 is going to be added. It’s just kind of sitting there all alone.

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Excellent news! One step closer to being the best grammar learning resource there is.

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well that’s your opinion, I’d rather get new grammar points even if they have 6 example sentences

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Agreed; while I can see the issue from both angles I would be more likely to renew my sub if the N1 material was wider rather than deeper. In my opinion 5 new grammar points with 6 sentences each is better than 0 new grammar points with sentences being added to older lessons.

The benefit of having lots of sentences is that there’s less danger of memorizing the sentence instead of the logic behind it, which is certainly a noble goal…but having more distinct grammar points would increase the likelihood that we would run into our recently-learned material in the wild, which is where the magic really happens.

At the same time, releasing so many new grammar points that the devs can’t maintain pace and fill them in would be a shame since it guarantees repetition; the fastest you can reach level 6 is 15 days, at which point there’s nothing to do but show you sentences you’ve already seen. If you’ve gotten a few reviews wrong during that time, the repeats will come even sooner.

Self-study is a nice feature and it would be nice to have the option (I’m sure some people, including myself, would even be happy for new items that consist only of a summary and links to external resources, which they could then populate with sentences from elsewhere), but realistically there are probably a lot more people who would be confused and frustrated at the complete lack of ready-made quiz content.

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@Pushindawood Could we get an update on this? I am working through Tobira at the moment and I’d love to add this grammar point to the pile.

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@Melanthe Thank you for your inquiry. I think that when we were adding new grammar points that were missing from Tobira, we were on the fence about adding this one since we had all of its components as separate grammar points already. For that reason, it got shelved so that we could focus on more relevant grammar. Now that you bring this to our attention, I think that it deserves its own slot and we will see about adding it in the near future. Cheers.

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The second batch of N1, Lesson 2 is here!

をもって - as of, with, effective from

とはいえ - though, although (I admit that), be that as it may, nonetheless

ならでは - unique to, only, impossible if not, expected only of

ですら - even

あっての - exist only because of/due to, owe everything to

Cheers!

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Thanks! I am just a bit of a completionist… gotta catch 'em all! :smiley:

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yay more grammar!

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The third batch of N1, Lesson 2 is here!

〜たまでだ - just, merely・simply, only

を経て - via, through, after (experience at job/university/etc.), pass through

ながらに - while ~ing, born (with), traditional, as always

たなり・なり - while… ~ing, remaining, not/ever since, keep/leave

の極み - ultimate, extreme, utter, epitome, peak

P.S. @Melanthe We have also added the last missing Tobira grammar point!

〜かは〜によって違う・〜かどうかは〜による - depends on, changes depending on, differ depending on - Tobira Chapter 1・Bunpro N3, L3

Cheers!

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I saw this was updated yesterday; finally, N3 is complete! Thanks to all of Bunpro team’s hard work!

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Woop woop! Thanks for taking my request on board :smiley:

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Hi. I’ve been using Bunpro for the last 2 years almost and can see how it fast-tracked my japanese grammar learning. I’m doing a test plan (from N3 to N1) and curious to know if you have an estimated amount of grammar points that will go into N1?
Should I expect around 200 like the previous levels?

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