Hello people I have a serious question I can’t do grammar as I am broke uni student I completed n5 within a month but I don’t have money to continue already as I am paying for wanikani too and I use anki for vocab can I come back to grammar after I finish wanikani in 2 years or is it vital to do it now.
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This is just my opinion and everyone values different things so please take it with a grain of salt(Also wanikani lovers please dont attack me). I think bunpro is much better overall then wanikani. I used wanikani for a short time and thought it was kinda of a waste of time. Yes you do learn but there are more better and faster ways to learn the dame thing. It gets to focused on one specific kanji and for me I end up getting more confused and annoyed. Wanikani is literally only for kanji of course. You cant do a lot with Japanese if all you know is kanji. Bunpro has more than just grammar. Like the vocab section they are building up. From just learning words in kanji and grammar, I feel like I did not need wanikani to learn kanji. This is all from my own perspective so you need to do what best works for you!
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I forgot to mention I tried anki and Shi the kanji didn’t stick for long enough and wanikani was the only one which made the kanji stick I don’t have much free income so I was wondering should I come after 2 years and get n4 to n1?
If money is the issue, why don’t you staircase your learning? Maybe every 12 levels of wanikani, take a break and do another tier of grammar? you can get 3 months of bunpro for the price of 1 month of wanikani, as well.
I regret not putting a larger focus on grammar earlier on. After 1 month of renewed grammar study, I have learned and improved my japanese more than 5 months of dedicated kanji study. For example, I am n2 level kanji, but that does not help one ioda in terms of real communication.
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I agree with this completely. honestly out of all my japanese studies so far, wanikani did the least for me. Much less than even Rosetta Stone. i used it until level 13, but at that point my real kanji level was well into N4 outside wanikani because I just learned the words with the kanji, not the kanji for the words.
Does Bunpro have Christmas deal or smt and what level would be Appropriate to stop for Bunpro and when you stopped or will stop how do you know that your gonna remember every thing do you do reviews?
Yea I tried anki with kanji but I kept forgetting them but for me I am level 9 ish and I can remember most of them and most of them are in master to englimemt
I did n5 in a month or two and then stopped for 5 months to focus on the kanji. when i came back almost all the n5 grammar is fully cemented in my brain. however I also have an unfair advantage of living in japan, which definitely gives me an edge in that regard.
A general rule of thumb for anything in a language, only review things up to 6 month periods. because let’s be honest, if something does not appear in a language in 6 months, chances are it isn’ worth remembering. which i think in BP it is Expert 2 and beyond. WK i think it is burned in 6 months, Renshuu you have to manually set it. and anki just forever pesters you unless you manually remove it.
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Disclaimer first, I am a big Wanikani and Bunpro fan.
I think if you are committed to getting through Wanikani, then go for it and stick on that path. If you want to keep learning grammar I have a cheaper suggestion (that I actually do in parallel with Bunpro);
Check a list of grammar points (tanos.co.uk has good ones). Check you understand them on taekim or jlptsensei…
…then…
Get a few example sentences in Japanese and English from dictionaries online or the sources above and make some sets on Quizlet (3-5 various types of sentences is usually enough).
… then…
Do grammar reviews on Quizlet! There is a paid version of Quizlet but I have never needed it. There are quite a few more adverts which can be distracting though.
Lastly, both Bunpro and Wanikani usually do special offers on lifetime around the end of the year. I would say see if you can scrounge the money somehow and it’ll really relieve the pressure on pushing through lessons/reviews. Both wanikani and Bunpro can get very heavy as you progress or miss days. Be aware though, I have been on Wanikani for 3 years and I am just over halfway, so powering through in a year isn’t always possible/probable. That said it is still the FASTEST and MOST EFFECTIVE method I personally have tried for learning kanji. I don’t have much time to study so try to keep my WK reviews low.
Good luck!
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Thanks for the response
I have been averaging 9-10 days for wankani I know it’s gonna get harder with reviews but at this pace 1 year to 2 years should be doable
Is it okay just to use the website on its own without Bunpro and throw it on a anki deck or nah
If you can keep that pace, you are a better student than me! That said I guess you have considerably more free time than me (I work full time, have two kids and only consistently study when everyone has gone to bed).
You can use Quizlet completely independently of Bunpro, but you need to make the sets (groups of flashcards) yourself.
Yea i am uni student I have couple hours of free time a day after uni
Can I use anki instead they are interchangeable
Of course you can use Anki… But you need to make the cards or find good decks that cover the stuff you want to learn…
I would like to hear what was your method of learning kanji in Anki and how did it differ from Wanikani.
I used this rtk-search paired with two decks in Anki, one for recognition and one for input (I bought a cheap stylus to write them on my phone). The github page lists all 3000 or so RTK kanji with mnemonics from Kanji Koohii made by users. I did this like 5 years ago and some mnemonics stuck with me to this day.
What I’m trying to say is that you can learn kanji for free (you can learn anything for free nowadays, including grammar), it just depends on your approach and how much time you can spare. I see that you have big time limitations, but making a deck and adding a couple kanji to it each day is not that big of a time commitment and you get more control over what, when and how you learn.
Use one of the many free anki decks for grammar or mine Bunpro and make your own anki deck. I’m not sure if I am allowed to mention that option on these forums…
Bunpro has lots of nifty features but you probably don’t need those premium features to learn. If you need suggestions for anki decks then please ask.
Equally, you may feel that you need Wanikani currently but plenty (most) people learn kanji just fine without it.
I hope you find something that works - good luck.
I used yomi chan and copied n4-n1 into anki took couple hours tho but done
If I’m not mistaken, can’t you access BP grammar lessons even if you don’t pay for the SRS? Maybe it won’t be quite as effective, but you could just study those grammar points off of BP on your own. You could even set up Anki reminders to study various grammar points if you wanted to make it SRS-like.
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I could argue that learning up to N3 grammar will be more useful immediately than taking 2 years to learn 2000 kanji, as you will see them in almost every phrase you try to read, in comparison to the kanji.
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Is n2 to n1 grammar worth doing as well
I’m not there yet, so I can only speculate. You can read a lot more about what to expect in some threads here, for example this one:
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