Onomatopoeia Deck (Official release) April-08-2024

[JamesBunpro]

I don’t want to open a massive can of worms but have you considered adding notes for onomatopoeia that have a different nuance depending on the intonation (pitch accent)? E.g., つるつる.

Onomatopoeia are one of those weird things where if you have an intermediate or higher “language sense” then they basically almost always make perfect sense when hearing or seeing them in context but they’re all extremely hard to produce naturally, without thought, when speaking, barring the most common ones.

Tangential but I once saw a mime act where they acted out a ten minute long love story but only said onomatopoeia (and did mime…). As a Japanese learner it was extremely interesting and made some of the sound symbolism stick a bit more in my head.

[Asher]

There are lots of things we could do with onomatopoeia that can potentially make the learning process easier, it’s just a matter of prioritizing them.

Like for a big family of them, they’re just from kanji, so learning the verb they come from can make them a lot easier to remember, especially when there are patterns within those words too like the めく suffix creating verbs out of きらめく, つやめく, ひらめく, ゆらめく, ときめくetc etc etc. You can kinda go ‘oh, basically all めく verbs are just onomatopoeia that come from some specific kanji meaning’. Then you have to decide whether that information is worth teaching, or better left in a thick ‘unlock onomatopoeia’ textbook .

[JamesBunpro]

@Asher

in a thick ‘unlock onomatopoeia’ textbook .

If you write it then I’ll read it! But, yeah, definitely more textbook or research paper territory…

[Curnan2]

The bane of my existence, yay!

Kidding, this is very helpful

[queque]

Amem

[NearlyRemy]

This is an incredible idea
Thank yo for your hard work

[Noobgam]

Just in time actually

Was super confused at the beach scene in FF VII REBIRTH when Aerith said “ひりひりでひゅうひゅうだね” during the beach scene
English translation in-game doesn’t really tell anything close to what she’s trying to convey

[mkgiles]

This has definitely plagued me for the entirety of my Japanese education, so to see that you guys have made a deck for it is a major relief

[loikuu]

Thank you for this deck! Awesome

[Edo9]

I didn’t even know that things like きっと and こっそり were onomatopoeia. Another great addition, thank you.

[mrfuuton]

Thank you so so so so much!

[AshuRage]

Thank you guys! I am looking forward to learn more onomatope.

[gen_a]

Hey, great idea.

Is this new deck fully available in the app?

I’m using the latest Android version (0.4.1) but the example sentences aren’t showing.

[jungliemonkey]

Also can’t find it in the app yet - but really looking forward to this, thank you!

[JandroSantiago]

OKAAAYYY, I’ll finally try vocab on Bunpro

[Asher]

Is this the same for all words? There should be example sentences for that word.

There are some that do not have examples yet, but all of them should be there within 2 weeks max.

I have let the team know about じっと. Not sure what’s happening there . Could you perhaps retry downloading the site data through the app settings and let me know if that helps out?

[JandroSantiago]

@Asher

For our deck, we have chosen to start by introducing a set of very common onomatopoeia words, as well as some common animal sounds etc, before we dive directly into sound significance. A brief set of words then introduces all the sounds, and what they tend to signify.

This part really attracted me to trying this deck, but when I checked the options, it was set to anime frequency for the order by default.

That doesn’t seem to be the same as what I’m reading here.

But, when I change and save it, it will revert back to anime frequency.

This is using the website, not the app.

[Asher]

Because the deck is in chapters, the order will not change apart from within those chapters themselves. So sorting the deck will really only affect about 10 or 20 words at most in each chapter.

Edit - Turns out I am wrong and sorting the deck breaks the chapters . Will update again with a fix.

Solution - Seems like changing it to anything other than default will break the chapter organization and give you something that only cares about frequency etc. If you set it back to default, the chapters will show back up properly with the original intended organization.

[JandroSantiago]

Thank you. However, like I mentioned, even saving my changes does not change my selection. It defaults back to anime frequency.

Thank you for looking into this

[Asher]

I’ve passed this on to the dev guys. But just to check, have you tried going into your deck settings by actually opening up the deck page and trying to edit it from there? This could potentially be some kind of bug preventing the edit feature saving correctly when accessed from the home page/daily planner .