To you, what's the most important progress data on Grammar Points?

What data holds the most significance to you as a Japanese student when looking through your progress for each Grammar Point?

SRS Stage? First/Last Seen? Whether it has a Ghost or not?

Even if it’s something we don’t currently track, I’d love to hear your thoughts!

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When I have ghosts, I would like to know of what grammar point they are. But in general I would like to be able to filter for SRS and ghosts, but also inside decks and also for vocabulary. And if it is not too much to ask, including ghosts in vocabulary decks.

Being able to sort grammar points for first/last seen would be a nice touch, but in my case I would prefer the first I said.

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I only look at my progress through the dashboard. I love watching the blue lines for the different N-levels climb upwards. Besides that, I judge my progress on the SRS levels (also on the dashboard).

I guess, if I had two wishes on this topic, they would be:

  1. Add color-nuances to the blue lines for each N-level, based on SRS level. That way I can tell the overall progress within a N-level. (Right now I can just tell how many of the grammar points I’ve started at that level).
  2. I want to be able to click on the SRS numerals/stages on the dashboard, and by clicking that numeral get a page with a list of grammar points I have at that SRS stage.
    That way, I’d - for example - get a quick look at what ghosts I have (and thereby an inclination to what I should have an extra look at). Or maybe even what grammar points I got at SRS 12, but might want to consider resetting.

To answer the question: I think you have the most important stats already with times studies, accuracy and ghost count.

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I also only look at my overall progress, not at the progress of specific grammar points. For example, right now I’m really excited because I can see on my dashboard JLPT progress bars that I am getting really close to finishing off N2! Maybe I’m misunderstanding the question, but I only open specific grammar points when I get them wrong to double check my notes, the examples, and related grammar points.

Something I would be interested in seeing tracked is my average number of grammar points added per day/week, which could then be used to estimate how soon I will reach the next milestone!

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I like this idea. A little bit like Kitsun has for deck progress:

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Exactly something like that!

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This is really good.

Also it would be cool if the % per N level was included without the need of a TamperMonkey script:

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You can view your current ghosts by going to your profile, then clicking on the stats tab and scrolling all the way down.

As others said, I only really look at overall progression currently.
Although being able to see the correct answer % of individual grammar points, and/or even better being able to sort/filter them by that would be super useful. That way you’d know which things you frequently struggle with even if they’re not currently ghosts. (Useful for if you have a teacher and they ask what you want to do next lesson lol)

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Right now I use the srs level to judge my progress on any specific grammar point, but like Ochamame said I think I’d much prefer an accuracy percentage to check. Even more though I think I’d like an accuracy percentage for specific sentences.

I find that my progress through a grammar point tends to have break points where a specific sentence with something unique going on holds me back, but I don’t always have a firm enough grasp of the grammar point to recognize which one. Being able to pinpoint my accuracy on a specific sentence would let me look at it in depth and see what it’s doing.

For example with はずがない I was held up for awhile on the 5th sentence

" 少年部屋だから、綺麗なはずがない。"

because it was the first time a な形容詞 was used. To analyze the sentence I had to catch it during normal reviews and sort of interrupt my flow to study it, but I would have preferred to take a peek at the grammar page outside review time and have some data to understand where I was getting stuck.

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second this

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I would like to see something like a histogram for accuracy on grammar points. When I first learn a grammar point, I often fail it a bunch of times before it starts sticking. Then if I forget it, it will start to get worse again.

Another thing is I would like to see some kind of tracker of your reading progress. Maybe a way to self-grade how well you understood a passage (Likert scale?) or even the example sentences, so you could have a different measure of “I understand how to recall this grammar point” vs “I can read this.” That would be really useful to track, and would also give you feed back on how difficult users find the content to make sure it’s appropriate for the level of the grammar point and that you have enough variety in usage.

Lastly, and this is pie in the sky, but some kind of mock JLPT-type exam would be really cool. There’s already those big milestones of “you completed all the N5 grammar points,” but to go further and say you’ve really mastered those grammar points would be cool. I know that you could say “that’s the same as getting x SRS level” but it feels like that’s missing… something? Cram gets close but maybe not quite there.

Edit: I think it’s the fact that you get corrected upfront and that is going to affect your other answers and skew the results. I also think an evaluation would have different kinds of questions than an SRS - read a paragraph and select a statement about it, for example. That might be hard to execute on, but it would be really helpful to have more variety in the kinds of questions since they each exercise the brain in different ways.

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As others have mentioned, I’d also like a breakdown of counts and percentages for the combination of N level and SRS level.

This could also be generalized as page like wkstats with nice filtering options.

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when i read the example sentences and intuitively understand whats going on without any thinking is most important to me.

i dont care about badges or numbers.

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How many times has the oops button been pressed on this grammar point you big cheat you

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The more you press on the same session, the bigger it gets to make you feel more guilty.

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I don’t know if I could handle the truth :fearful:

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One thing I think might be interesting to see would be a global average of right answers for a grammar point, that way you know if you’re struggling with something that other people do as well, or if it’s just a problem unique to yourself. When that’s the case, you might want to ask other people how they think about the grammar point to perhaps get some insights that could help better cement the idea.

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so far, I follow your recommendation about keeping my overall last session % above 85

then I see my ghosts only, I dont mind the other stages. My ghosts now are at 48, I always try to keep them at 35 max.

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A heat map of grammar points by … n level or lesson might be cool, think there’s something like this on wkstats by wk level
Even more powerful if it could be linked to something like a cram session of weak points as opposed to just showing interesting stats.

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