Would it be possible to let the font size be customizable ? Look at how small the example sentences are (image). Furigana is even smaller.
On a side note: the translation is said to be “withdrawal”, but the examples surely mean “drawer”
Would it be possible to let the font size be customizable ? Look at how small the example sentences are (image). Furigana is even smaller.
On a side note: the translation is said to be “withdrawal”, but the examples surely mean “drawer”
While studying for a test I have coming up, I found a couple errors in the chapter 10 section of the Genki deck:
It lists 張る instead of 春 and it lists 止まる instead of 泊まる.
Additionally, the deck lacks an entry for リンゴ, 年上, and 地下鉄
I only bothered checking for errors in the part of the deck with Chapter 10 vocab, so apologies that I can’t provide similar corrections for the rest of the deck.
I really like the implementation of the decks and vocab so far! I love the direction Bunpro is heading, and it’s quickly becoming my most used online tool for Japanese learning.
I don’t know how hard this would be to implement, but there is one change I’d like to see to the decks: the ability to subdivide the decks. The reason I’d like this is so I can visually see which parts of the Genki decks are for which chapter rather than having to check manually. It would also be nice to be able to study just a specfic subsection of a deck without having to study the whole thing. Though I completely understand if this would be too difficult to implement well.
Just reading through the thread now and this comment spoke to me. I also find associations that allow me to answer quickly but end up learning nothing. Crazy how one type of skill can destroy another😣
Hello.
I would like to ask if the vocab decks review formula will be updated?
It would be nice if the words were shown highlighted in a random (or not so random) sentence from the example sentences. This would increase our exposure to the language. Currently I’m busy with my academics and sadly Bunpro is most and often all of my daily Japanese exposure.
As it stands now the vocab reviews are pretty bland. I just see the word, guess the pronunciation, type in some english translation that first comes to my mind and lastly check if my pronunciation was right. But what if I didn’t guess the pronunciation right, but guessed the meaning correct and passed the review?
An option to change the manual input from english meaning to japanese pronunciation I think would be very nice too (except for hiragana/katakana words, I don’t know what to do with them in this case).
And I know that voicing all the sentences is probably expensive and time consuming, so did you maybe consider using some open source or online voice synthesizer? It’s always better to hear something, even if it’s some poor robotic voice, at least in my opinion. Sorry for being chaotic.
Is it normal that I’m not getting asked to do reading input?, like I get asked what Vocabulary means, but I never get asked on how is it read, if that makes sense?
I’m new to this, so I’m sorry if this is an obvious question, doing Ctrl + F in this Forum is painful
I second this idea. Would be a really cool feature that could be applied to many different scenarios – not just ‘syncing’ with WK, but with any other list/deck, including user-generated/custom/shared decks in the future (if/when this is implemented).
Okay, I have a pretty significant request (not significant in that I think it will be terribly difficult, but significant for getting this feature from Beta to Release, or at least make significant progress towards that goal). [Spoiler (not really a spoiler): The feature I’m looking for / requesting is better / more control over ‘syncing’ with WaniKani vocabulary. But the motivation needs some explanation first, so…]
The issue I’m having is this: On WaniKani, I along with several others have taken up a somewhat unorthodox approach to studying Japanese via SRS systems. We have a thread on the forums there called Let’s Durtle the Scenic Route, where we share the idea/approach of basically taking our time with the SRS, focusing mainly on enjoying the experience of learning Japanese, rather than trying to learn as fast or as ‘optimally’ as possible.
With this learning philosophy/approach in mind, it is sometimes, for example, worth it to reset to a previous level, simply because I might feel that I’ve rushed too fast on the previous level. And so, for example, resetting our WK level would be a more common event for some of us than for the typical user of WK. Currently, I don’t think resetting back to a previous level on WK ‘syncs’ with BunPro in any way. I don’t think ‘re-syncing’ with WK would actually reset the BP vocabs of the higher-WK-levels back to SRS 0. They would stay at 12, right?
Also – and this is perhaps the main motivation behind this request – I’ve even begun experimenting with what I call ‘revisiting old friends’, which is basically resurrecting burned items on WK and starting them over from Apprentice, to relearn them through the SRS system once again, all the way back to burned-a-second-time (without actually resetting my WK level; just manually clicking ‘Resurrect’ on whatever item I want to ‘revisit’).
The reasons for ‘revisiting old friends’ are actually multiple, and some may be more relevant than others depending on the item I’m resurrecting. But here’s a few reasons one might want to resurrect ‘burned’ items, off the top of my head:
With those motivations in mind, my request is to rework and/or polish the user interface for ‘syncing’ with WK, so that it gracefully handles things like a) full or partial level resets on the WK side, b) individually ‘resurrecting’ (and also ‘re-burning’ via the ‘Burn’ button) previously-burned WK items, c) perhaps even handling things like a ‘rolling reset’ as described above under Motivations.
Currently, the interface for syncing with WK is very simplistic, and is really only oriented towards the idea of ‘speed’ and ‘optimality’, i.e. it assumes that you either want to study vocab entirely on BunPro (the default) or entirely on WK (by which it will ‘sync’ the entire WK vocab you have unlocked and set them all to SRS level 12 on BunPro, eliminating them entirely from BunPro review).
Once you perform a sync with WK, then – as far as I can tell / am aware – there is no affordance (built into the UI) to ‘undo’ such a sync, and those vocabs are now set to level 12. If you want to ‘undo’ the sync through the UI, you have to manually go to each vocab item (which is extremely difficult to do using the existing UI, since there is no easy way to, for example, sort vocabs by SRS level, or sort by ‘synced with WK’) and manually click ‘Reset’ on each one. (And the UI for ‘Reset’ doesn’t refresh the page to show it has been reset, so this UI is also not very smooth or intuitive yet.)
I don’t have a 100% clear vision of what the syncing feature ‘should’ ideally look like, but here are some thoughts/suggestions.
I could go on, but I think it better to leave this monster wall-o-text here for now and see how y’all respond first. Thanks for your patience!!
Grammar Points Should be prestigealbe and the algorithm should be modified to take into account known vocabulary, and dynamically give you sentences that teach grammar/vocab right at your comprehension threshold.
I appreciate the thought you put into this. A big take away for me is that it may be nice to introduce a way to prestige a grammar point, or in the case of wanikani a Kanji after it has already been mastered.
That way internally it can still reflect being mastered but you get the chance to Polish any or all of your most familiar points.
It think that will also have a knock on effect for the few who do eventually master every grammar point.
I am here for the long haul at this point As I take a break from learning new grammar as I study for the N3 this winter and see my reveiws starting to go down, it would be nice to just add in a few N5 points to fill up my reviews. Even better (and more work for you all would be to use those grammar points but in more complex sentences than were originally introduced.
One thought I had with this is to decouple the sentences from specific grammar points and instead have two databases. One of grammar points, and one of example sentences that contain x number of grammar points. Then when you are going to learn the next highest level of a grammar point the algorithm finds a sentences that contains an i+1 sentence for you. Bonus points if this links into the vocabulary decks themselves and also shows you sentences that contain all words you know. If you hit a point where there are no sentences available for you; then, you would be recommend some high frequency words that would unlock the greatest number of sentences, and pointed grammar points that would highly comprehensible for you.
After typing this all out. I realize that if you did this. I would stop using Anki almost completely. This is the hacky solution I have built myself over years of study, and if you could actually integrate into something that actually works. I would actually use the vocabulary decks.
Right now there is no point. I want to want to use them, but I don’t.
(Sorry if this has been answered already.)
This will mark all of the Wanikani vocab you have learned so far as “Known” on Bunpro, preventing a doubling up of reviews.
Where’s the unsync button? I’m using BunPro purely for grammar and don’t want all the extra XP from the vocab.
Unfortunately, there’s no unsync as of yet. I’ve also requested they add that, but since it’s still considered a Beta feature, they’re not sure when they’ll get to it yet.
Ah, if it’s still a Beta feature, I guess I’ll be holding on to the extra EXP for a while. I imagine it’s going to feel weird seeing the level number jump back down 10 levels again after being around this level for several months (people get attached, ya know ). Too bad I’m not using bunpro for their vocab features, I probably wouldn’t have minded otherwise.
@Jake I remember you mentioning you would probably eventually transition to in-context vocab (within sentences). Is this still the case?
Just wondering if there is any kind of forecast for when N3 vocab might start? It would be super useful!
That is correct! We are actually wrapping it up now but it won’t go live until after the JLPT as it is a big, fundamental change to how vocab reviews work.
@bunnypro we have the sentences for N3 done, but we still need to do the work of translating them. I don’t know if they will make it before the end of the year but hopefully by early next year!
That would be great and perfect timing - thanks a lot and plz keep up the good work!
Hello. I’m finally planning to start the vocab decks, but is it not possible to access them on the mobile app yet? At least I don’t think there’s an option for it in plain sight.
Also, do we have an ETA for the N2 example sentences?
Hi there! Great to hear you’re thinking of using the decks . At the moment, the decks themselves aren’t available via the app, but all the words are. This would mean that you’d need to either add them to your reviews 1 by 1 from the app, or add them via the site, then review them by the app. It’s not an ideal system yet, but maybe @mrnoone knows when they will be fully integrated.
As for the sentences for N2, we actually added them all this week , so they’re already there. Unfortunately we have not done the English translations for them just yet, but that will be coming in the near future.
That’s great that N2 translations are coming soon!
Just wondering if you have an ETA for the audio too?
No pressure, but it would be super useful to know, especially if it will be in enough time to give them all a listen through ahead of this December’s exam
Hi I’ve just joined the beta and used the vocab feature a bit. It looks great! I know you are always receiving requests for changes and new features, so here’s another!
Currently you can choose to study new grammar, and choose to do your reviews (ie two buttons on the dashboard). Would it be possible to have an option (in settings) to turn on mixing new grammar with reviews? Then you could have the review button sending you to your reviews, and also introducing new bits of grammar to you. This is how Anki does it (with a ‘max new cards/day’ limit, to allow you to control how much you learn) and I quite like it. When you see a card you don’t necessarily know whether it’s new or not (you might just have forgotten it!) This keeps you on your toes, and also means that you learn new content almost without realising it.
I also second the request made earlier, to have a way to add/study new vocab directly from the dashboard. Either a combined (eg) JPLT 5 grammar and vocab deck (which I’m sure is on the way), or just a button on the homepage to study new vocab. I think having a checkbox for ‘alphabetical’ or ‘random’ study order within the deck would make lots of people very happy too!
Thank you for all the work you do on this, it really is a great service/product!!
Hello!
I currently use kitsun.io for vocabulary. I saw a post about recent changes to the vocabulary decks on Bunpro allowing input and wondered whether I could do everything in Bunpro. As I’ve explored the feature I’ve hit a few walls and was hoping for some advice.
I probably have a strange process but when I encounter a word I don’t know I check it in Lorenzi’s Jisho. This site tells you the vocabulary ranking in news, anime and Wikipedia. Based on the ranking I make a decision whether to add it to an SRS or not. If I do, in Kitsun I can manage my deck and move this vocabulary and its associated sentence to the front of the queue for study. When seeing if I could replicate this in Bunpro, it seemed like I had to go through all N5-1 decks to try and find the word rather than a single repository for all Vocab without the N test wrapper. Am I missing something or is the access through the N grading the only way to see the vocabulary list?
In Kitsun for each vocabulary I have to…
* Hear an audio file of the word and type the meaning (no writing on the page)
* See the word/kanji in JP and type the meaning
* See the word/kanji and type the hiragana
* See the word in ENG and type the JP word
* See the word in a sentence, read it, mark whether I got it right or not
* Hear the sentence with no writing on the screen, mark whether I got it right or not
This is perhaps excessive but it really helps with my recall all these different inputs and listening prompts. I don’t have the best memory with vocabulary and this helps drill it in. As far as I can see in Bunpro I have two options - see the word alone without the context of a sentence and mark it as known or not OR with the new update I can type the word into a sentence. Are there any other prompts or ways to add different ones?
Sorry for the long post, I’d really love to consolidate how many SRS systems I use since WK, Bunpro and Kitsun can be a time-consuming part of my day. If Bunpro can offer what I get in Kitsun I guess I’d happily drop it and move to here.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated