Vocab marked as mastered straight after learning?

For the professional bug catchers, it may also be useful just to confirm if the grammar items (which you’ve followed this same process for) definitely show “Beginner 1” after the first time you review them. (This would appear, for example, in the same place as where it says “Master” after the first time you review the vocab items).
It seems suspicious that there is a difference between the way your grammar and vocab items are behaving! :male_detective:

Yes, I can confirm that grammar items are behaving normally, as in, they’re showing just the ‘beginner 1’ stage when I first review them. But now that you mention it, I do not remember mass marking the grammar items like I did in the vocab decks. I went 1 by 1 with the grammar decks. I think it might be what @IcyIceBear was saying

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Ah, then that makes sense and sounds right! :smiley:

While it may take some time to do for each item, here is a way to reset your progress for individual vocab items:
On each vocab item’s page, it should be possible to access something looking like the following, probably on the right of the page or by opening a “sidebar”:

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In this image, there is a “settings” wheel to go to, then a “Reset Progress” option.
Hopefully something similar will be available on your device/browser :+1:

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I’ve known most of that N5 grammar for over half my life and I still went through it normally. The way Bunpro’s material builds on itself, I found that the best way to make sure that the new stuff organically builds from what I know. Plus starting easy got me used to the site’s structure.

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Found it! I successfully tested it and it seems to be working well. Thanks a lot for your help, everyone @bunnypro @MOA_304 @IcyIceBear @Brand_S

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Can I be so selfish as to ask for someone to plz give me the TLDR version of what happened in this thread? My brain is currently fried ATM from too much (or not enough :thinking:) coffee :woozy_face:

Is it the “Marked as Master-ed and then Remove from Reviews-ed without Reset Progress-ing first” thing again?
If so then yeah, I agree it’s hella confusing. I’ve brought it up with the team before, but the convo didn’t get anywhere. Might be worth a bump internally.

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Exactly this (⁠´⁠;⁠ω⁠;⁠`⁠)

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Yep, that seems like a fair summary!

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@IcyIceBear @bunnypro

UX question – without any previous context – would you think that removing from Reviews would also reset the Review at the same time?

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Personally, yes!
Then when re-adding something to Reviews, at that stage you could sort out what SRS level to put it as :thinking:
But I would be interested to know others’ thoughts on it too.

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Im not sure, I feel biased from knowing how bunpro works :thinking: to me it only means remove from reviews, not progress.

But trying to be objective, I can see how that could mean the same thing to people. Would there be an instance where someone removes an item from reviews, expecting to come back to it at some point and wanting to be at the previous srs level? I kinda agree with bunny here. when they encounter it again they can set the srs to what they want

unless someone would want to keep track of progress without having it in reviews? cant think of why tho. EDIT except in the case of decks now, i can see wanting to remove or suspend an entire deck at a time to focus on other decks and not get harrased with reviews. in this case, I would definitely want it to only remove from reviews, not reset progress

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Yeah the bias is real…
I kinda think most users would expect it to be reset too…
Apparently so too did @Inamari!

The use cases for anti-Reset you mentioned feel super niche, which is why I’ve always been pro-Reset.

Keen to hear if any others have opinions too!

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yeah I think so too. another problem I see with just being able to remove items, is having items with progress attached free floating in the void. currently theres no way to keep track of items removed from reviews, so theres the potential to have them “learned” to a certain srs at a glance, but forgotten. either not knowing its not in reviews or unable to find it to add it back. or in Inamaris case, reintroduced as a mastered item

I propose removing from reviews does acutally reset as well. BUT also have some sort of suspension option that prevents an item from appearing in reviews and/or learn queue. with the ability to see the suspended list and search it with filters

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I propose removing from reviews does acutally reset as well. BUT also have some sort of suspension option

Yeah some sort of “suspension” / “freeze” system came up in the same discussion I mentioned before…
It is currently just a lot of work at the moment with everything else going on to do right now.

Was kinda hoping it would be a resounding “Removing should definitely reset” from the community, which would be an easy fix. :joy:
But alas, I guess something fairly fundamental is hard to pull a simple 180° on

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FWIW, I would also expect a removed word to completely reset. Personally, I can’t see any use case where I would want to retain progress of a word yet also suspend that word specifically.
…Just from my point of view!

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Not to bug anyone here, but I’ve had this question for a little while: When I mark things I already know as mastered the percentage of completion in my decks would go up, but the next time I look at it, it goes down. Why?

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Where are you clicking Mastered, and where are you viewing the Deck completion?

Based on this answer, it might be a caching issue on our side.

@veritas_nz In the decks category next to practice and learn (not mine. screenshot from Google)Screenshot 2025-01-20 8.47.26 AM

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This will refresh the cache!

It worked! Thanks! :purple_heart: :purple_heart: :purple_heart: :purple_heart: :purple_heart:

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