WaniKani sentence deck

Japanese
#1

Hello Everynyan,

I’m looking for something very specific before I try investing resources into making my own deck.

I am currently going through the Anki core 2k and generally enjoy it, and while it has its flaws(looking at you lack of input) I do enjoy that it does force a slightly better understanding of words in the context of sentences. While it lacks in having multiple sentences, per example I take what I can get. It most certainly has helped me when I hear the word in the wild. On top of the deck having 4 different methods of understanding to an extent.

Hearing
Recalling(The Kanji)
Listening to it in a sentence
Reading the sentence.

I have looked around in hopes of finding a similar deck for Wani and have been unsuccessful so far. I did find one, but it was Kanji only with no sentences, and as I remember, no listening.

I understand that Wani changes up their levels from time to time, but regardless, is anyone aware of a deck that is just like the core2k but within the Wanikani levels or shall I make slow efforts to make my own deck. Or is there anyone willing to also assist in the making of this deck? A native speaker who can read input the Audio once the cards are made?

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#2

It’s never outright said in your post, but you don’t actually use Wanikani it seems. Is that correct?
If so, are you aware that all their material (radicals, kanji, vocab, example sentences) is free to browse? No subscription needed. The only thing locked behind a paywall is the SRS.
So if you want access to their example sentences you can just go to the site and read them for free now.

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#4

I do use Wanikani.

What I don’t have access to, is a native speaker speaking those sentences that I can use to gauge my listening and understanding of sentences.

Knowing a word, and then hearing that word in the context of one, or several, sentences is a different skill. One that my older age makes more difficult, despite my relatively good immersion.

I have come across multiple situations where I know the word when written, but don’t recognize it when heard.

So while my vocab hovers around 2kish words, about half of that is Wanikani vocab that I don’t actually get to hear being used. I don’t necessarily care of the example sentences are from Wani or not, just that it relatively follows the levels so when I learn the kanji on Wani, I can learn the listening via anki.

I deleted the above comment to hit the reply

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#5

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I can use this as a perfect example. I know the entirety of this sentence. Having just come across it, I only understood the first and latter half.
Does me no good to understand the kanji only if I’m not also learning how it spoken and used.
And I happen to like the method that anki uses and, at least these decks, have better audio quality than many of bunpros sentences.

#6

Okay, I misunderstood then. Thank you for explaining.
But if you only know 2000 words aren’t you more at a stage where you should broaden your vocabulary by just keeping on using the material you’re already using right now, rather than trying to deep-dive into creating your own specialized content?
Can’t the reason you’re struggling with the words in real-life contexts be that you simply currently have a limited vocabulary?

It’s easy to slip into analysis paralysis territory if you overly try to optimize language learning before it’s actually needed.
Maybe try to complete your current path before veering off? Assuming it’s still yielding results, of course.

An edit: If you feel that you need to study example sentences with audio, you should actually look into Mango Languages. It’s a “paid service”, but you can get it for free by signing up through certain library memberships. It’s very heavy on audio (all the audio is recorded by native speakers) and their Japanese course is very big (over 650 lessons).
Here’s a thread describing how to get a paid membership for free. And I can vouch for it working, I have an active subscription by using this method.

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#7

I wont say my limited vocabulary is not its own issue, but I know enough to pass by. I say 2000 because I know roughly 1000 from Wanikani and then however much 4ish decks from the core2k and the first Genki book covers. With a few crossovers of course.

But when it comes to Wani, would it not benefit me to also hear its pronunciation along with it being used to further help cement this in my mind? And of course I would not keep this to myself. It would be available to everyone to use.

This is also why I asked if anyone was aware of a deck that already had the sentences being read, in the order of Wani. I would prefer not to make my own, as it would be time consuming. However, I feel that a month of effort to make, would be more beneficial to me now, than learning how to read the kanji, and learning to understand it when heard later.

This would also help my on reading I feel, as I read out loud. For when I read, I can “Hopefully” pronounce it correctly and also improving my speaking.

I could be way off base here as well, but for some of the trickier readings of kanji(looking at you 生) I feel it would also benefit me in remembering the reading, if I can think of the sentence in my head and how its spoken. Getting real sick of my Wani reviews being
生
生きる
生える
生む

Shits annoying lmao

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#8

Please look at the edit in my previous comment.

#9

Thank you. I’ll take a look and see if I can finagle something with them, always does good to have more resources and Lord knows I love em. But again, Hoping to be in line with Wani.

My current studying methods are doing me alright with everything except for listening. Despite my almost constant podcasts and movie/show watching, I struggle to listen and understand the words I know. I want the Anki deck to drill the words in.

Also to remove any perception of me being new to studying, it’s been a little over a year for Japanese alone, and it wont be the 2nd or 3rd language I’ve studied.

#10

Yeah, please don’t interpret my comment on your vocab as me trying to speak down to you. I would feel bad if that’s how you took it.
I’m just being direct with you. 2000 is objectively a low word count, so it’s an aspect that will be an obstacle when immersing until you learn more words.

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#11

Yes sorry, I most certainly find it difficult to express myself on forums because we both can make assumptions of what the other said and then it sometimes does not get corrected. My perspective made me feel like I was talking in a circle and repeating myself when you are only trying to help.

I do agree my lack of vocab is a hindrance, but I fail to see how adding an additional level of vocab learning to be a hindrance. That is what I am trying to ask.

What’s the philosophical question about learning in a vacuum? I am trying to remove that vacuum and bridge the gap of Vocab and Grammer and Speech.

It is in the manner of I am learning vocab from Wanikani regardless. It can only benefit if, with another app I am already using, I am is able to supplement and add.

#12

It because the same vocab is in wanikani, bunpro, anki 2k ect. There isn’t a ready made flashcard deck as you found. It would be better to get to the end of the anki 2k instead of working on making another deck

my answer to your initial question:
So, Wanikani was invented to learn kanji, not vocab. The idea is to learn kanji from wanikani, (or kanjidamage, jpdb, kanshudo ect) and learn vocab from Anki 2k (or Genki, bunpro, ect). I agree with Fubu that the best course is to finnish anki 2k deck. Once you do that, then make more anki flashcards
I like the 4 sided card. For me, I studied 4,000 cards from a pre-made deck. (Jalup from this page Resources under sentence banks catagory) With two sides
image

reading
image

listening
I made 100 flash cards from manga with out audio

I also struggle with listening. When I watch TV I can read the subtitles, but I can’t understand without them. I should use subs2srs and make listening flash cards with the audio from the show on the front, and the Japanese on the back.

#13

Right, it is in Wanikani or Anki or ECT.

But, if I learn new vocab on Wani, would it not behoove me to also immediately learn it within contexts of sentences and listening?

This is my point exactly. What I’m watching is within my level of understanding when I read manga or watch with subtitles (Doraemon/Chibi Muriko/Anpanman)

But because I don’t have good understanding or a structured repetition of listening for words I don’t hear them until after the fact. And yet, it seems everyone is arguing this deck wouldn’t be beneficial or a waste of time?

Taking an hour or two every other day to plow through and make a deck dedicated to what I’m already learning to further assist my understanding and usage.

If it comes up again in anki 2k then good! That’s simply MORE usage at random intervals.