Hello all,
I was wondering if there was anything strange chaining ので or のに with a の-omitted noun. For instance:
僕のなので、食べるよ。 (Because it’s mine, I will eat it)
僕のなのに、好きじゃない。(Even though it’s mine, I don’t like it)
I think that from a purely grammatical standpoint these sentences are valid, but I wonder if the のなの chaining would sound strange to a native.
Thank you for your help!
Not strange, it’s just that there is a missing もの in between の and なの.
僕の（もの）なので、食べるよ。
This is actually very similar to omission of excessive uses of ‘that’ in English. For example.
Did you know that he said that he is dating her?
A native would probably just say.
Did you know he said he is dating her?
In 95% of cases, the omission will actually sound more natural. Same applies for Japanese in this respect as with English.
Note - もの and ‘that’ aren’t the same. Just a concept that is similar in this case.
Thank you for your help!
もの as in 物? I was more thinking of this point: の - Japanese Grammar Explained | Bunpro
Or maybe to rephrase it:
僕のなので、弁当をたべるよ！(Because it’s mine, I eat the bento)
Where 僕の would stand for 僕の弁当なので…
But now that I think about it I would need a だ in there, wouldn’t I? 僕の弁当だんで、…
No you wouldn’t need it - な replaces だ like here ので - Japanese Grammar Explained | Bunpro.
もの・物 was just an example. The noun after the の is simply dropped for no better reason than “that” is dropped in English.
Ok, so in this case you could end up with のなので with the noun dropped and it’s fine, right? No need to add もの/こと or some other placeholder to “pad” it?
Yeah, I think so. I saw it used like that too.