Yet another study blog: Coming back to Japanese after Life™ got in the way, with a little dash of existentialism

Years ago, back in 2021, I wanted to learn Japanese. I’m German but I grew up with a lot of English content so I’m pretty close to native I’d dare to say, but learning Japanese was the first time I really set out to actively learn a language. I downloaded Duolingo and learned hiragana and katakana. Then I did the classic “redo the same lesson over and over to keep my streak up”. I ended up with a streak of slightly over 100 days, but i barely knew anything, and with lack of a proper plan I ended up stopping. Later in late 2023, I got a chance to do an in-person Japanese class my uni was offering. I did it, and enjoyed it!! But it was… slow. And learning things by heart the old-fashioned way was horrible. I started Wanikani during this class and loved it. By the end of the semester, I passed the A1 exam, even though we only got through half of A1. I could have done the A2 class, but that would have just been finishing A1. Sure, the certificate would be cool. But I knew I could study much more efficiently on my own.

So, I got into a habit of using Bunpro and Wanikani. I did this for a good year, with a couple breaks in between because my motivation dwindled every now and then… I got to a point where I’d say I was somewhat close to N4, I was pretty proud of how far I came and was looking forward to continuing my journey.

Then Life™ happened.

This year has been absolutely crazy and my entire life got turned upside down. It was so much that I just stopped my daily reviews to focus on everything that was happening. The 2000+ combined reviews on WK and BP that built up over time didn’t help. I kept telling myself I’d eventually get back into it, because I really do have a passion for Japanese. And I feel like, just now, finally, after ~7 months, Life™ has finished Life-ing. My adventures and escapades have come to a bit of an end and I am left with the aftermath of it all. And when I got here, I realized how sad I was that I stopped. I thought about all that I achieved and all the effort I put in, and I just cried. But it filled me with this deep determination. So I set my sights on my giant pile of reviews and locked in.

I followed this strategy where I went through all WK levels one after the other until I got all items on each level right, to avoid resetting everything. Before I stopped I was level 25. At around level 17, which was also the first level on which I didn’t have any burned items, I felt it all crumbling (wow the srs stages are real???), so I reset to level 17. I had ~400 reviews left and I did them all that same day. And there I was, back. Ready to keep going.

BP was another issue. But I went a different direction here: I’m going through all grammar again, just to make sure its all still properly in there. And I reset all vocab, marking anything I still easily remember as mastered along the way. I am slightly worried that this approach will make my reviews hell as I am adding a lot more new items than usual, but I will slow down with the new lessons once I notice this happening. Maybe I will mark the really easy grammar points as mastered just so I don’t clutter up my reviews too much.

So, here I am. At the beginning of my 3rd attempt at making this work. Hoping that, no matter what life has in store for me from here on out, this can stay a constant. Something I can keep being proud of. Something that maybe gives me a bit of purpose, a bit of direction, regardless of the people around me. I visited Japan by myself in March for 3 weeks and I would love to live there for some time in the future. I have no clue where life will take me from here on out, and I’m honestly a little scared. But I know I’ll keep doing this. And I pray to god that one day, I’ll get 日本語上手’ed again. Yes, that happened. I don’t know how.

My current goals are:

  • 10 new WK items per day
  • 5+ new Grammar points a day, slowing down to 3 once I get to N4
  • 20+ new Bunpro vocab per day

The vast majority of these items are pretty easy for me as I’ve learned them all before. I’m excited to find out what it’ll be like once I catch up with where I used to be. I want this thread to remind me of the effort I’ve put in and the milestones I’ve achieved. And I’m glad to do it here on these forums, that I felt so comfortable in last year before I stopped. I rarely ever participate in communities of any kind, so I’m really looking forward to this!! So keep going, all of you. We’ll all get where we want to be eventually. I’m sure of it.

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I’ll start with my current progress to see where I started: I got properly into my rhythm 3 days ago, so this is where I’m at now:

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And on Wanikani I am slowly getting through level 17. Can’t wait for my first level-up after 7 months:

Studying these items so far has been really fun. I know this stuff will change a bit later on… but I’m determined to keep going either way!! Anyway, I’ll report back next time I have anything to… report. I hope you all have a great day. And if anyone is ever on the fence about getting back into it and reads this: do it. It’ll be worth it. The same goes for me in case I ever need to hear that again… fingers crossed!!

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Good Luck! Also don’t be hard on yourself if you mess up. I feel like we all have these moments where Life hits in an annoying way…
Consistency is key with studying and slow down if needed from time to time.

You can do this!

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Thank you so much, that really means a lot!!

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I completely understand the feeling when Life getting in the way of learning and routine. This year, and most recently in August, Life happened to me several times when I could barely manage to keep a streak. I’m still trying to get back on track.

Anyway, enough about me, glad to see you back and good luck!

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This got me emotional as I’m in a kind of similar boat, best of luck with everything and good luck on your journey :slight_smile:

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Thank you so much for sharing, I know how much it sucks and how hard it is to keep going, but keep in mind you’re not alone!! You can so do this, I absolutely believe in you.

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That’s basically what I did during onboarding here, so let me share my experience. I added around 50 to 100 items a day until all of N5 was in my queue. Instead of setting easy things to mastered, I changed the settings of the deck to all new items already being adept and then manually set “easy-ish” items to whatever I thought was fitting (adept 3, seasoned 2) and made sure not to put too many items into the same category on the same day to avoid huge stacks of reviews coming back on the same day.

But that kinda failed :sweat_smile: While review count wasn’t too big, I still skipped a few days every now and then, which lead to random huge stacks of same level items (200+ same level items a day on top of regular reviews). Not that this bothers me much, but since you were talking about review hell it might bother you :sweat_smile:

To avoid this, make sure your items aren’t all in the same SRS level and to not akip any days, if you need to skip using vacation mode might help (but I never tried so I’m not sure).

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I’m glad to hear I didn’t needlessly overshare lol, please stay strong and focus on whatever’s most important to your well being right now!! And best of luck to you too. We’ll all figure this stuff out one way or another, I’m sure

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This is super helpful, I had the same idea but was unsure about what SRS level to put them on so I kinda disregarded the idea, but I think I’ll do this. I’m just thinking like, do I really need to have ここ in my srs system at all? i had already burned it and other “simple” items like it before i stopped and i feel like maybe it’d be better to just master them… I think both options are probably valid, but I’ll still dwell on this for a bit before i decide on anything. Thanks a lot for your input!!

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You can do both approachs at the same time! There’s probably really no need to have ここ in your SRS, I just wanted to have at least a few practice sentences for every item to see them in context. Set the items you feel really good about to mastered and make sure to somehow evenly sort the other items into SRS to get a somewhat even and predictable review queue every day. :slight_smile:

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That sounds like a really good idea, thank you!!

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My first little milestone: I got a 1 week streak on Bunpro!! When I studied last year I almost immediately hid my streak. I didn’t wanna fall into my old Duolingo habits of just doing a lesson for the sake of my streak and never really getting anywhere, but I now realize that was kinda silly. I also didn’t wanna get discouraged from studying should I ever break my streak. Which sounds fair-ish… but idk, I think I should be able to live with it if that ever happened. Either way, this time I am gonna care about my streak and try my absolute best to keep it up. Another milestone: 3000 items learned on Bunpro!! Obviously this includes loads of WK import stuff, but I’m still happy about it.

(quick comment on that background: i was in asakusa next to that pagoda at night in march and its such a beautiful memory… god i wanna go back)

I am going through the N5 Grammar pretty quickly. Most of it is still pretty easy, and remembering the conjugation rules is easy-ish after looking at them once again. But I am starting to feel some of that good old struggle again, missing that だ before the けど after nouns and な-adjectives… means i’m learning, at least! Seeing that top bar fill up so quickly is really motivating me.

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In terms of vocab, things are going steady. I’m doing my 10 WK items a day and at least 20 new vocab on Bunpro, and that bar is slowly filling up, too. Not quite as rewarding as the grammar, but still!! Also interesting how some of the newer items are actually getting harder to remember. They started out so easy but I guess that just means the ordering of the deck is pretty smart about putting important words first.

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I made a big step in letting go of someone important to me a few days ago. Someone who sort of motivated me to get back into all of this, because I felt maybe this proved something to him. But I realized I was just putting more energy into someone who wasn’t doing me any good. And I should be doing this for myself, not for him. In letting go, I am finally doing all this just for myself. And as much as I feel the will slip just the tiniest bit sometimes, I’m determined to keep going and to build something just for myself, just because I owe it to myself. Nobody else.

In case anybody used/uses the PreMiD Discord activity for Bunpro or WK, I fixed both of them to work again. They were broken after website changes so I decided to update them myself.

I hope you all are having a great time studying and will stick to whatever goals you set for yourself!! It’ll be worth it. Be proud of yourself.

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Today marks another little milestone: my first level-up on Wanikani since February!

The next level ups will take quite a bit longer with me going through vocab at 10 items per day, but I’m still happy I’m back to making real progress.

The last day or two have been kinda tough. Maybe in part because I slowly feel summer ending. Maybe because I’m feeling a bit of the hollowness left after everything that happened in the last 7-ish months. All the people I held close and no longer even talk to. And this morning that made it kinda hard to get out of bed and do my reviews. Made me feel like giving up, just for a second. Looking at other people’s progress and how far behind I am now is also discouraging sometimes. But despite all that, I got out of bed today and did my reviews. And I even did some extra grammar points, just because why not. And I’m proud of myself for that. I can do this.

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Another milestone!! A 2 week streak!!!

I’m slowly but surely closing in on finishing N5, which will feel good. I’ll finally be at the level I stopped at again.

It also feels good to look at this graph:

Even back when I was active I missed days so often. It was really rare I actually had a decent streak. I had a ~30 day streak once but that was about it… in a whole year of studying. So I’m looking forward to keeping it up this time. Gives me a reason not to slack off, even just for a day. Which I’ve noticed is quite easy… now after around 3 weeks of feeling the burning desire to get back into it, I totally feel it becoming a bit of a drag again. Not entirely, I still enjoy it a lot when I do it. But I don’t jump up with excitement to do my reviews anymore either… oh well. I guess that’s the stage where habits prove to be either a fluke or real. And I’m determined to make this one real!! You just gotta be there and show up, even when nobody is watching. That last part is tough sometimes… but I know I’m not alone. There’s plenty of other people doing the same thing, every day. Including whoever reads this, most likely. So thanks for making it so I’m not in this alone, you. We’ll all get where we wanna be.

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Our stats and study stories seem very similar! I also returned to Japanese this year after a long hiatus due to life - and I am on about the exact same track as you are SRS wise.

Happy to hear that your studying is going well! I’m rooting for you, friend!

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