Accidental N1 Speedrun (whoops)

TLDR: Started learning Japanese in late Jan./early Feb., knew zero Japanese beforehand, just finished N1 grammar and vocab this week - how did we get here???

The Who

Hi y’all, I’m a PhD student of modern Korean history and started learning Japanese early this year so I can research in the colonial archives! I know, not exactly the most relatable position, but I think if I can do this when I’d previously had zero intentions to learn Japanese, then people who have the passion and motivation can definitely do it. Plus, I really feel like I just tripped and ended up here - I cannot stress enough that this was an entirely accidental speedrun motivated by me wanting to not disappoint my advisor :disappointed_relieved: I really do NOT recommend speedrunning - taking your time is always best.

The What

Started learning Japanese early this year with zero prior knowledge and just completed Bunpro’s N1 grammar and vocab decks this week. I think I finished N5 in late February, N4 late May, N3 early July, N2 mid September, and N1 this week. Was not intending to go this fast at ALL, but anxiously working to make sure you’re not the biggest dummy on the planet is quite a motivator apparently :crazy_face:

The How

Full disclosure, I think I was only able to go this fast because I am fluent in Korean (lots of grammatical and lexical similarities) and in my field, lots of people speak both Korean and Japanese, so I sort of passively got to learn more about the region’s linguistic history and politics. That being said, I was really held up by my own lack of exposure to really any kind of Japanese media so I’ve had to learn all the prosody, humor, etc. from scratch.

Learning method wise, I used Bunpro, Wani Kani, and started a Japanese class in September, and started reading early since that’s how I learned Korean.

My minimum Bunpro goals were 3 grammar points and 10 new vocab in a day, and clearly I did more than this (especially during the summer) when I felt like I was absorbing and remembering things better. For Wani Kani I did about 15 a day, but I did more on days when I got new batches of kanji and radicals so I could cram in more vocab (again, a lot of the words with Sinitic origins are so similar to Korean).

What I think really helped lock things in my head was a TON of reading and writing - a sentence a day, writing down what I didn’t understand from NHK articles or books like Harry Potter, then going back to find their meanings and add them to my SRS routine. Speaking wise, I’m still not great, but I think narrating what I’m doing around the house has helped with spontaneous sentence production outside of the classroom, and I’m going to start layering in Japanese podcasts to help with my listening comprehension (any recs are always welcome!).

The What Now

Honing in on everything here by cramming a ton and writing at least two practice sentences for each grammar point! I need to get even better before I do a program that will help me learn how to actually conduct my research in Japanese effectively, so from here on out it’s practice, practice, practice. I’ve already started poking around in the archives, but it’s so different from modern Japanese I know it’ll be like learning another language entirely. I also have to learn Literary Sinitic for the academic job market, so I feel like I’m still on first base.

Cheers to everyone on their journeys to learn Japanese, and best of luck! I’ve only ever been inspired by how hard everyone here is always working, y’all are so awesome. And thank you to Bunpro for being one of (if not) the best learning tool(s) out there!

Catch y’all on the flippety flop!

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Congrats! Thats crazy. I’m curious, do you do ALL your reviews everyday? And how many do you get :eyes: ?

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the things a grad student can do! This throws me back to the time I read 20 books in two weeks to prepare for my comprehensive exams. Something about the academic pressure is very persuasive

Congrats on your accomplishment and hopefully your continued study of Japanese will be equally fruitful!

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ゆる言語学ラジオ is an interesting podcast to listen to, especially if you’re already into languages.

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Congrats!! Insane achievement!

and your post made me want to study Korean fr :laughing: i keep on getting tempted…

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Thank you @chicharron! I do, if I have the time! But it does bug me to go to sleep with stuff leftover :rofl: normally I average around 200-400 bunpro reviews and like 100-200 wani kani reviews? sometimes more though, I think the most I’ve done in a day is 1100 :sob:

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Thank you, and congrats on passing your comps!! Best of luck with your Japanese studies too, if you can do those exams you can do anything!

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Ooo @theslatesteak thanks, I’ll check it out! I’m a huuuuge language nerd

@rune Thank you so much!! And you should definitely learn Korean, it’s so much fun and I’ve found that learning Japanese has really strengthened my Korean, so I’m sure it’s the same vice versa

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Wow, that is some accident. Hope you’re okay!

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Thanks, I only feel slightly concussed :sob: :rofl:

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Hey, you’ve got floppy ears too! :rabbit:
That’s how you can bound through Bunpro :smiley:

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Congratulations, “walking buddy!” From the very little Korean grammar I’ve done, I recognized some concepts that were similar to Japanese grammar so I can see how knowing one can help with learning the other. Learning Korean was supposed to be my project for this year (web comics!) but that absolutely did not happen.

As for me, I’m hoping I can finish these last few N4 grammar points this year (after being here for 3 years!:sob:)

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Web comics (and web novels) is literally why i’ve been eyeing it as well! Hi five :laughing:

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That’s the bunny way! :rabbit2: :railway_track:

Lol that’s what new year’s resolutions are for! And you can definitely finish up N4, I believe in you!

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So now that you’ve done the SRS for all the N1 level stuff, how is your Japanese? Are you comfortable watching shows aimed at natives? Reading novels and manga? Can you carry a conversation easily and write about every-day topics? I imagine you must have had very limited time to immerse, so I’m really curious about how far just formal studying and reviews can get someone.

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Wow, even with a background in Korean language, N1 in a year is impressive! Have you tried any of the Bunpro practice tests to see how your knowledge compares to the real thing? I’m even more curious how far you’ve gotten in being able to comprehend the research you said you were studying to be able to read in the first place. I also found reading books was a huge positive impact on my Japanese learning, but I also spent a few years getting up to N1 from zero while being fully immersed here in Japan, so it’s hard to imagine that level of speed with just SRS!

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Love your fresh take on accidentally aquiring japanese skills for your phd. i bet every phd student can relate :sweat_smile:

Hope you can already see the finishing line of your phd soon :slight_smile:

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Hi, these are important questions to ask and I think these are the main reasons why I don’t recommend speedrunning - if I had the luxury of more time I would also have more natural exposure and more well-rounded development of skills. That being said, I’m currently in a 4th year Japanese class, can read NHK articles and novels (currently Harry Potter and Butter), I feel comfortable speaking although I still clearly make mistakes, and while my listening isn’t perfect I can still follow along without subtitles (watching the Japanese remake of Marry My Husband - very cute!). Formal studying only gets you so far, but since I love reading I’ve made sure to incorporate that from day one and I think that’s helped tremendously. That being said, writing is my strongest skill - I have a long way to go on the others, but that’s because of 1) the speedrunning method and 2) my research needs sort of require that I prioritize it.

I have! I just passed an N1 test recently and the listening kicked my butt :sob: I’m glad you’re able to be in Japan, that sounds like so much fun plus much more well rounded than solely SRS :relaxed:

Thank you Chimmsen! Most of life is happy accidents, and this feels like a big one :rofl: Time will fly by in the program but there’s a ton left to do :sob:

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Just curious did you complete Wanikani? I feel like Wanikani/kanji in general takes way longer than Bunpro/grammar and vocab

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It definitely does! I’m level 51 right now! I think I’ll finish it sometime mid january since the levels past 45 are express, and right now I’m finishing levels in a little under 4 days.

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