Adjective[て] + B (Qualities・States) - Grammar Discussion

and…
both and
conjunctive

Structure

  • い-Adj.[ ] → → く + B
  • な-Adj.[ ] + B
  • Noun[ ] + B
  • Exception: いい → よく + B

[The て-form is often used to link qualities/states of someone or something. This particular use of て does not imply a sequence of events/time]
[When modifying a noun, unlike in English (Order of Adjectives), there is no particular order in which adjectives should be placed, but usually い-adjectives are found closer to the noun]

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Hi there,

What is B? I’ve not seen it before and it’s not in the structure legend.

Thanks :slightly_smiling_face:

I’m not sure but I think B just represents the second half of this sentence that the adjective in the て form connects to?

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I think this grammar point is covered in Genki I (second edition) Lesson 7, page 173:
“Te-forms for Joining Sentences”.

Currently it is missing from Genki I path.

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It’s another adjective. This form is used to make a list of adjectives.

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Just to clarify this quickly, this example states that we love if apples have all three of these characteristics at the same time, right? Aka we love them if they are round, big and red?
And not that we love big apples, round apples and red apples each in their own way…?

Also is it specifically emphasizing that we love those kind of apples (and wouldnt love any other kinds of apples) or is this “non-exhaustive” as in we love this kind of apples, but we could also love another kind as much?

Just not sure about the “both and” translation given for the overall grammar point. Sorry if thats a stupid question and thanks in advance!

Yes, all three adjectives modify apple which makes the apple big, and round, and red. If we were talking about big apples, round apples, and red apples you would need to make list which you can do using particles like と, も, に, etc.

It is not saying anything about other kinds of apples.

but we could also love another kind as much?

We can tell the author really likes this kind of apple since he used 好き, theよ ending particle, and an !. While he could love another as much, the author sounds really passionate about big, round, and red apples.

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Thanks, makes sense. I dont really have any other people to clear stuff like this up with which seem important to get nuances and grammar points right, so I am very thankful for any help.

Yes, all three adjectives modify apple which makes the apple big, and round, and red. If we were talking about big apples, round apples, and red apples you would need to make list which you can do using particles like と, も, に, etc.

Now that you say it, this comparison made the use of this grammar point quite a bit clearer, great!

I assumed something along those lines with the usage of よ but still wasnt too sure on my own.

So once again thank you for taking the time to reply in such detail :smiley: