Engaged listening practice

I have just recently secured a new job, but it means a longer drive to get there, so I was looking for some suggestions on something I can use that time in the car for besides just ‘regular’ listening practice. I currently listen to some beginner-intermediate all Japanese podcasts on the drive to & from work, but I find myself zoning-out sometimes when listening, it just becomes background noise. I was hoping there was something else that actively engaged you in the listening and learning a little more. The Japanese-pod 101 series is probably the easiest example of what I am getting at. I have listened to these, but was hoping for something a little beyond that.

Any suggestions? or just keep listening and bounce between active and passive aka ‘zoning out’

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I experience the same thing to be honest as I’ve been trying to listen to an hour of podcasts a day for around six months now (not that it’s particularly improving my listening comprehension tbh).

My concentration will drift but I think it’s because my brain wants to take a break.

Maybe have a Japanese music playlist and alternate between the two. Do a couple of podcasts then some music for a bit etc.

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If you have Spotify I can recommend “Lets talk in Japanese”

He has a lot of different levels available from N4 and up I think. Works for me a lot of the time and If I dont have much focus to spare, I pick something thats a bit easier on the N-levels.

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listening to shows and anime youve already watched and comprehended mostly i think will help you keep engaged! itll be like youre watching it in your head! look to the above project ears thingy!!

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Thanks for the suggestions all. I am aware of tons of listening practice, and there are plenty of threads about that, I was really looking for something that actively engaged the listener in the process. Something like an audio lesson maybe or the japanese-pod 101 podcast series.

I don’t really watch anime or JP shows so unfortunately there’s nothing to listen to that I’ve already watched. Though I could mix it up from JP podcasts and just listen to a show anyway, something different could keep me actively listening for longer!

I get this might be to much of a specific request but it was worth a try!

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you could shadow stuff to keep engaged? shadowing is pretty good practice and being stuck in the car alone is a pretty good time to go all out lolol

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I do some shadowing, but its certainly a good idea to perhaps spend some time trying to shadow an entire portion or few minute ‘blocks’ to make the most of it.

Also I didn’t realize how many western movies (and fairly recent ones) had been added to the project ears folder, there’s definitely some stuff in there I’ve watched and could now listen to the japanese audio and try to follow along. Thanks for the bump @toejam and winningtofu

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I recommend jojo! As Asher mentioned in the project ears thread, the va in that show is soooo good. If you want to be engaged, that’ll do it (not what you meant, I know, but I can’t help myself!)

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As a person who listens to Japanese podcasts on their way to work as well, it’s safe to say that it’s impossible to not lose focus at some point, and to be fair it’s probably dangerous to focus too much on the podcast while driving.

Even when listening while working or doing a chore, at some point I will lose focus. I instead set time apart for engaged listening.

If there is one thing that I’ve learned from listening to hundreds of hours of content, if I don’t know the word I don’t know it, in most cases I won’t pick up the word due to simple context. Of course, when I learn that word it starts popping up everywhere, but it was apparently inaudible for the past several hundred hours. This might be the reason I personally lose focus, just not knowing enough words.

Sorry, rambled on a little bit there.

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That’s a big part of it for sure, unfortunately my vocab is lagging behind everything else and so affects my listening comprehension. I find trying to memorize huge lists of words harder than learning grammar, kanji etc. so I end up losing focus when I can barely understand anything going on. Sometimes I go back to some easier stuff like ‘Japanese with Shun’ and understand most of it just to get a small confidence boost :sweat_smile:

As entertaining as listening to jojo might be, I’ve never watched it and considering that show is so, well… bizarre, I wouldn’t have a clue whats going on or the words they are using. I just downloaded some movies from Asher’s ‘project ears’ collection which I know the dialogue (omg Shrek), so I will see how that goes.

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I’m not sure how well this will work while driving, but I assume it’ll probably be just as effective. I had a lot of issues zoning out early on when learning, and I was constantly looking for a way to keep me engaged and I eventually came across this method that did me wonders. I’m just going to copy and paste the notes I wrote for it here. I do say “tally” but you don’t have to actually tally. When I used this, I would mostly just tap my thumb instead, which is something that can easily be done while driving. I would think tapping your foot might be helpful as well, etc but here it is:

Here’s some of the notes I noted right after the “discovery” of this method:

“First time trying this (6 minutes straight) - I’ve never been more focused on what I was listening to when I first tried this. So many words I knew popped out at me. Did I understand sentences any better? Most of the time no, but I overall understood a little bit better at what was going on because I was hearing way more words, and I understood a sentence I know for sure I wouldn’t have heard in the first place if I wasn’t doing this.”

"If you’re struggling trying to figure out what to tally, literally just tally every single word that you recognize. Even if you don’t necessarily remember what it means, tally it! Even if it’s a word that’s similar to a different word (雨, 飴) mark it. It’s all about staying engaged and reacting to sounds you recognize. "

“Following the “Steps for Listening V3” (specifically step 2) I’ve never been more focused on listening to the language. For comparison, I’d say I’m focused 90%-100% of the time, while before I was focused about 10%-20% of the time (specifically on listening to the language). I’m able to hear words I don’t normally hear, and I hear quite a few words I don’t even know (because I’m able to notice it when it comes after a word I know, or it’s between two words I know). Out of all my other methods, I’ve never come close to this level of focus listening to the language. I’m focused the whole time, and if I do start losing some focus it’s super easy to refocus - by either pausing for a couple of seconds, or changing out I’m tallying + remembering it is what I’m doing.”

At the time of doing this method, I wrote down I knew maybe 2500-3000 words. I did notice this became harder the more words I knew though because I was constantly tapping which made it less of a “unique” process. In that case, I think it becomes more effective to start focusing on sentences where you know all the words and noting that instead.

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I definitely put more emphasis on vocabulary before discovering bunpro. I kind of neglected vocab for a while, but have been focusing on it more recently. I personally use a combination of my dictionary app, Anki, Migaku, and ChatGPT to study vocab.

Don’t forget collocations as well. It’s one of the least talked about things in the Japanese language community, but I found that they enrich my vocab learning.

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