Experiments log

Hi everyone, and welcome to my new log! :wave:

It’s been around 10 months since I stoped positing in my previous log. Of course, I wanted to write a full story, describe every single piece of what I’ve been doing, how it went, what seemed to work, and what didn’t. But it’s really a bunch of text, so I’ll just skip to the part where I talk about why I started this new log.

Current Skill Level

I don’t think it’s a good idea to assess the level, so I won’t be doing it.
About a month after the Bunpro mock tests were released, I took the N3 test and got 86% on it (15th month of study, but after a break of 3 months).

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After that one, I became more active once again and felt those big moments of growth quite a few times. Something like “Now I can read so much more kanji”, or “it’s so much easier to remember words now, easier than in Italian”, or something like “now I can read Sakamoto Days without lookups and understand so much!” and so on. Usually, it’s something that opens new media or makes previous interactions more effortless.

I want to take both N2 and N1 before March 19th. If I do, I’ll make sure to post it in this thread.

Why start a log now?

I’m not sure why I decided to start it now. It’s been an idea for a decent amount of time, but I didn’t really feel that strongly about that till like today.

The purpose

The first thing is that I like coming up with new study strategies, but it’s hard to try them without documenting and creating something like a plan. The study log format has just happened to be quite 個人的に便利 for that purpose.

Another important aspect is that I have a lot of thoughts about learning Japanese, and lately I’ve been just thinking them to myself without sharing with anybody. I actually don’t know how I feel about it, but maybe it’s just a part of the whole experience, and I’ll come to my senses when actually talking with people.
And it just feels right to have a place where I can just write some thoughts, especially when those thoughts are related to the topic of the community.

Current

(I really forgot the word “objective” for this one, but managed to get 当て)

  • Trying a learning strategy I came up with a month or two ago
  • Implementing one everyday activity and maintaining it for over 3 months
  • Taking the N1 exam in December

Current learning strategy

Writing this one after the next section by the way.

This strategy is somewhat a sum of my ideas and things I’ve got to know for the past 6 months.

The idea is simple: Learn a number of new words (using kanji as an etymology helper) that have new roots really well, to the point of not forgetting them, so they become a pillar for understanding new words with the same etymology.

The method is built upon these rules:
Not that I used them as pillars, rather that they became pillars that my mind uses when I think about learning stuff

  • Must have an end.
  • Must have an activity switch before the brain gets tired of the current activity.
  • Must create deep connections by connecting as much as possible (no shallow drilling connections, but understanding on a deep level and finding connections that will then be visible for a long time).
  • Quality over quantity, but this one is still hard from the perspective of numbers, still cannot get over them, heh. Again, this one is almost the same as the previous one. I wrote it just to make sure, but they are almost identical.

So what do I actually do?

First stage:
Adding 150 words with absolutely new kanji in Bunpro.

  • Before adding the word to the reviews, read and understand every sentence for each word perfectly.
  • Doing reviews (cloze card) every day (during the first and second stages).
  • Writing each new kanji on the A4 paper, and every day recalling the word for each kanji on that paper at least once.
  • Adding each word to Anki.

I want to start this tomorrow, and I want to add them in 4 days.

Second stage:
Learning to write every word.

  • Continue Bunpro reviews for another 3-5 days.
  • Continue recalling words from my A4 kanji list.
  • Setting up Quizlet with all those words.
  • Doing hiragana or sound → kanji writing till I know all the 150 writing really well, so I don’t have to think at all and just start writing as soon as I see the front of the card.

Doing it for 2-4 days. I’ll be using a timer, so I’ll just make sure to do this activity for the same number of hours I’ve spent adding those words in Bunpro.

Third stage:
Here, I’ll be adding 3 words for each root (kanji reading) I’ve learned so far to Anki.
I didn’t plan how I’ll be doing it yet, but it’s not a problem if I create it after I finish the second stage. It’s probably even better to think about the second stage after the first one is finished.

So yes, this way I break up my studying into small groups of activities where I can do with a good engagement and transfer all my progress from one activity to another so I can always do what I feel is the most profitable thing at the moment.

Everyday activity

For some reason, I cannot continue any new routine I come up with. I start something, do it for 2 or 3 weeks. During those 2 or 3 weeks, it becomes much harder to do that new routine/habit, it becomes weaker and weaker until it finally fades into non-existence.

That didn’t bother me much in Japanese, because I feel like it’s just normal. If you do something similar every day, the brain will get bored, will start concentrating less, and won’t be able to use it’s 100%, which I want it to use. So I just switch activities when I feel like the one I’m doing right now is no longer the hardest, the most enjoyable, the most fresh, but already tiresome. By the way, that’s how I can study a substantial amount of hours every day without burning out. I would have died 18 times so far if I had just used Anki or any other way of studying without switching to another.

The problem is that I cannot sustain even a small habit, like doing 3 new French cards every day, or reading a passage in Italian, or again doing 3 kanji/day in Japanese. Same for music, sport, programming, etc.

I don’t know what causes me to give up everything I’m trying to do without being obsessed with it, but that’s exactly what I’ll be exploring here!

So what I’m going to do is take a piece of paper and draw a 3 months planer on it. Every day I’ll write the time of me doing this activity, so I can see when I start postponing this activity. Also, I’ll make a field to track how well I felt about/while doing it.

The activity itself is:

  • Mining and adding 5 new Anki cards a day.
  • The card must have 1 kanji that I’ve seen but don’t know, or one kanji that I regularly mistake for another kanji.
  • Front is a sentence with a gap for the word, so I have to write the word on paper.

I’ll be posting how this experiment is going every Saturday, and hopefully, while struggling, I’ll start understanding why it’s so hard for me.

Also, it’s interesting that it’s not a problem with all habits. For example, within my domains at home, such as cooking, cleaning the kitchen, taking the rubbish out, and some other small stuff that really matters within the household, I’ve managed to develop really good habits that are really mine, and I do them without any stress or pain, because it’s just how things go. That is because if I don’t do those things properly, I make other people suffer, and I don’t really like other people to suffer. Probably my will to make people around me suffer less is bigger than the thing that holds me back from giving up on stuff.

Anyhow, I’ll see how it goes, and this time I’ll have a log to see how exactly it went wrong (if it goes wrong, of course)

The N1 test in December

As a new year resolution for this year, I decided that I’ll take the N1 test this December.
I don’t particularly feel like I have to study much Japanese, because I don’t feel like I have to pass it. I feel rather chill about it.
I’m writing about it because it will probably influence my behaviour somehow, and I might even start trying to get to that level. Let’s say it’s just one of the leitmotifs of this thread.

Fun stuff

Also, I finally turned back on Grammarly for writing this post, and I found out that my writing is much better than a year ago!
Grammarly corrects me, but clearly not as much as it used to.

Seeing that, I decided to pay attention to my English writing this time, not to obsess with it, but at least get some gains from writing these posts.
So what I’m doing is:

  • Write the sentence till the end.
  • Understand what the mistake is and correct it without looking it up.
  • Notice and say what kind of mistake I’ve made, for example: “particle”, “preposition”, “punctuation” or “spelling”.
  • Notice if I know the rule, and I just didn’t notice making the mistake, or if it’s something where I don’t know the rule.

So far, I’ve learned how to spell “purpose” :slightly_smiling_face:

Hopefully, this will help my English progress as well!

Closing part

That was quite a long post; I’ve been writing it for 3 hours so far, so thanks to everyone who has finished reading it!
I’ll be happy to host some interesting discussions here, so feel free to write anything!

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It’s been one week since the last post.

Week’s goal

So the idea was to add 150 words on Bunpro while reading and understanding every present sentence. I’ve managed to add only 60. I’ve been using jp-jp dictionary to look up every unknown word in sentences, and it started taking me like 1 hour to add 7-8 words. Not that much, considering it would have taken only 20-22 hours to add all the words I wanted, but the problem was different, I didn’t really want to do bunpro reviews for cards I’ve already added, anyhow, I was doing them, but only for those 60 words.

For some reason, I don’t really want to continue this type of studying now, and don’t really feel like investing much time into it.

I’ve also created a deck with 6-8 useful words with each of those kanji. By the way I created it useing script I wrote, that uses the gemini-3-mini model to create really nice cards with words, one at a time. They have a good short explanation and 2-3 example sentences. I think the quality is really good. Anyhow, not going through it as for now, but might do it when I feel like learning a lot and doing time appointments for studying.

Everyday activity

The next day after I created this topic, I created a setup to mine and then reviewed cards, just as I explained in the original post.

The only difference, I guess, is that I add only 3 cards a day. It’s really not as easy as I thought it would be, and takes quite a lot of time even now, when it’s just the the start. I’m glad I made that change before starting.

I even thought about switching to creating cards with kanji from words I already know, but I feel like any change at this point would signify the failure of the challenge, so in the end, I just decided to do it earlier in the day. So far it’s been like:
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Card type, by the way, looks like this:

So when I review it, I have to recall the word, and then recall the writing.

As the source for sentence mining, I use Atomic Habits. To my surprise, I can read very-very well, I feel like I wouldn’t really struggle without a dictionary, to that point. It’s even kind of hard to find new kanji here!
I’m really glad with how I’m progressing.

I also watch a lot of YouTube about drawing, it feels almost like I’m watching something in English. The only words I don’t know are body parts 骨盤、老骨 (I hope I used the right kanji) or words like パース. And those are really easy to catch because it’s basically what I’m learning!

Listening to NHK 1 radio is still impossible, I have to learn political vocab I guess.

Next week

For now, I’ll just continue doing 3 new cards every day, and do some random stuff, no big plans for now. Maybe I’ll tackle the French deck, or I’ll be drawing a lot of somewhat perspectively correct cubes.

I’ll again make an update on Saturday.

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Today I’ve finished the N2 mock test.

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言語知識 part was somewhat harder than N3 5 months ago, but only in a few places. The reading part felt really good this time, even better than N3 when I was doing it.

Listening felt really good. It was much easier than N3 when I did it. Of course, did 10% worse than N3, but when I was doing N3 listening, I thought it was ok to relisten, so I was able to listen to some sentences twice, you can see it as I used all the 40 minutes there:

Here, I only gave myself one chance and only a few seconds to answer after the recording is finished, to simulate the real thing as close as possible. Also, I didn’t use headphones this time. So I’m really glad with my listening progress.

In general, I was afraid to take it, but it wasn’t that scary.

By the way, has someone taken this test and scored a somewhat similar score, right before taking the real N2? If yes, how did you do on that real test?

I also want to take N1 tomorrow for the reference, but I’m not sure I’ll be able to.

Edit: I think I’ll add some stuff about the progress.

During these 5 months, I felt a rapid growth in one or another type of media a lot of times.

  • There was a period when I started getting the structure of words, and they became easy to remember.
  • I had 2 big jumps in reading comprehension, after one of them, I started enjoying reading books without a dictionary (specific kind of books though, those that I read),
  • Started understanding 積読チャネル really well and went from 3% time comprehension to 70% time comprehension in 減額ラジオ.
  • Started understanding most comments under YouTube videos I watch without a dictionary.
  • Started understanding a lot of songs at once just a few weeks ago (the most recent “jump” I felt).

So, I had a lot of those, and I’m actually quite surprised that N3 and N2 exams are so far apart. I hoped I maybe could score the same this type on N2 as I managed to score on N3 last time.

But again, I’m also surprised with my progress, because it’s not like I did some crazy 5 hours of study a day, I was just chilling, reading sometimes a lot, doing a lot of other random things, started watching youtube and anime in japanese bacause I wanted to watch some anime and youtube and not because I wanted to learn japanese thou that.

Anyhow, I’m curiose to see how it’s going to work with N1 now!

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This week’s kanji learning went quite smoothly.
Half the times I would do reviews at 12-13 o’clock, and another half I would do them at 3am.
The good thing is that even when I were forced to do them late at night, it didn’t become to hard, to the point of me wanting to give it up. Also, the time needed for reviews is not growing to much, and retention is slowly getting better (now it’s 58% against 51% after one week)

The thing I tried implementing is making image occlusion cards, so it would be the same cloze sentence type of card, just with come physycal and emotional context. I created 5 or 6 cards like that so far, and retention for them is really good so far, I’m gonna continue creating them that way and even get more card like that then the usual ones.






(This one is 縁起)