と - Grammar Discussion

if・when
whenever
and

Structure

  • Verb +
  • Conditional

[conditional phrase + と + constant result]

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I noticed the grammar point and structure only uses verbs but Wasabi link states:

When you use nouns and na-adjectives, you need to attach だ like 春だと.

and Tae Kim also states:

The natural conditional is used by appending 「と」 for verbs and i-adjectives or 「だと」 for nouns and na-adjectives.

A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar also uses a noun in one example.

Perhaps these could be included in examples sentences/structure?

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Hey :cowboy_hat_face:

Thank you for noticing it!
If it wasn’t for you I wouldn’t realize that we haven’t added examples for nouns and adjectives!

We will likely add those as separate grammar point, for the time being I will add information that it can be also used with nouns and adjectives!

Thank you!

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What’s the main differences between this and なら?

how do I know when と means if, when or and?

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Usually based on context, in some of the examples there is a comma after と.

勉強べんきょうをする、テストは簡単かんたんになる。

このいしみが綺麗きれいになる。

ここから富士山ふじさん全然ぜんぜんえない。

You wouldn’t use a comma if you are using と to join nouns.

と can be used more than once when used to mean ‘and’, unlike in the conditional と.

バナナリンゴオレンジとか

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thank you, explained very clearly…

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Is it something like zero conditional in English, when both clauses are in present simple?

If I drink too much coffee, I can’t sleep at night.
コーヒーを飲みすぎると、夜に寝ない。

If you heat ice, it melts.
氷を温めると、溶ける。

When the sun goes down, it gets dark.
日が落ちると、暗くなる。

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