によって・による - Grammar Discussion

English translation:
by means of, according to, depending on

Structure
Noun + によって
Noun + による

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Got this URL instead of a hint when I was off, just thought you should know!

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Thanks for notifying us! :grinning:


Fixed :+1:

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Reported this as well, but just wanted to show the issue here. This grammar point just really doesn’t like me I guess :joy:

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Should be fixed now :+1:

When によって is used as “through” and the like is it any different from using で? 例えば、

火災によって家はなくなってしまいました。

火災で家はなくなってしまいました。

My guess based on the reading is the によって sentences sounds like a natural disaster or accident while the で sounds more like a crime occurred.

So if によって makes the means more passive; then in case like where I was part of a discussion using 話し合いによって sort of separates me from the decision whereas using 話し合いで would sound like I was taking more responsibility?

Same question here

Also, there is a special case given in the legend, but it is not explained.
What does it do?

Noun + によって + 違う。

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@Pep95 Regarding the second question, that’s its own grammar point on BunPro, and means “depends on”:

https://bunpro.jp/grammar_points/619

(I kind of read it as “… depending on X, it differs” (違う means “to differ”) which seems Japanese-y in that its a bit of a roundabout, softened way of saying things :))

As for the first one, where you’ve linked my post, here’s an interesting reply from that thread:

Though I’d love to hear a more “definite” answer for that, too :slight_smile:

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