はともかく・は兎も角 - Grammar Discussion

Grammar Points
#1

setting aside
apart from

Structure

  • Noun + は + ともかく + (として)

Noun + は + ともかく + (として)

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#2

I noticed this in a some grammar points, but so far none of the Nihongo No Mori videos have opened for me, did they private most of their N2 grammar does anyone know?

#3

Yeah, I don’t really know how it comes either, but it’s probably this video if you’re still looking for it :

Copying the title from BunPro in youtube seems to give the video, but the links don’t seem to work :man_shrugging:

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#4

Why is this incorrect? If it’s not, please can we get a “can you say it a different way?” or something? Cheers

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#5

Yo @matt_in_mito !
It is completely natural!
I have added it as an alternative answer.
Cheers :slight_smile:

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#6

I have the impression that 兎も角 (ともかく) is related to 兎に角 (とにかく). Is Japanese grammar making me go insane? :exploding_head:

If that’s the case, it could be interesting to add it to the grammar explanation to help with memorizing this adverb.

PS so is this also linked to ならともかく?

#7

The way I understand it, these are all different forms of the same thousand year old expression. とにもかくにも、とにかくに、ともかくも.
And that 兎も角 is an ateji that somebody thought looks cool, that is, it’s unrelated to the Buddhist 兎角亀毛.

But this is just something I read online.