How do you _Actually_ remember the vocab/grammar?

How do people here actually memorise the vocab and grammar points? I don’t just mean “well it is an SRS, so you will eventually remember them”, but practically what do you do to get the grammar points into your head. I am getting about a 50% sucess rate on my recall, and I just can’t get a bunch of it to stick.

Do you write the conjugations out a hundred times like a Victorian school kid memorising their latin? Or do you just suck at memoriseing hundreds of grammar points until they finally sink in?

What do you do when you get a new grammar point? How long do you study the grammar page before moving on? 30 seconds? 10 minutes? If you get a grammar point wrong, do you just move onto the next question or do you spend 5-10 minutes trying to drill that grammar point somehow?

I feel like I am not really making any progress, and I have more ghosts than a haunted house at the moment. Am I just bad at remembering things? or is there some trick I haven’t realised?

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Vocab : I started by katakana word like concert, tshirt etc. You don’t need to memorize the word most of the time as you already know it, but to memorize how it sounds in japanese.

I highly suggest not going blindly into adding a bunch of words, but actually thinking it through and adding them yourself
Then, I added cities (60 words) and “words with no translations” (udon, ramen, futon, tatami, kimono etc)

After that, i added words that were short (one or two kana) and easy (papa, mama, today, this week, this month, this year, etc)

You can already exclude a lot of words from the “unknown” category.

Grammar : As for grammar point, it depends what you’re looking at.

If i take points like “kore”, “sore”, “are”, i grouped them together to study.
Most of the grammar comprehension i have comes from watching videos.

Conjugation : Then, for conjugation bits, people tend to overcomplicate things.
I’ve once seen a book that separated godan into sub groups depending on the conjugation you were studying. Which was useless as godan you simply needed to learn your kana.

Most conjugations can be understood by starting with ichidan which always go : base + inflection (tabe + ru tabe + masu tabe + nai etc)
So you can focus on the inflection part.

Having clear tables help on that side
Like so :

Tabe + inflection

“Positive”
“Present/Future” “Past”
“Polite” “Past polite”
る た
ます ました

“Negative” (same cells but you put everything in negative)
ない なかった
ないです なかったです

(last line can be switched with ません ませんでした, it’s easier to remember just to add です, but keep in mind they’re more casual spoken japanese)

I’m getting carried away, the idea is simply to find a way for you to clearly understand, through videos, books, making your own material etc
Bunpro is a tool to review cards, SRS.
You need to have learned the point to remember it.
Not the opposite.

So if a point is stuck, remove it from your reviews, make a list, go learn about it, then try to review it again later.

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Hm… for me, the repetition does actually make it work. If there’s a grammar point that really doesn’t stick for me, sometimes I look up extra information about it off-site, or I manually create multiple ghosts for it so that it comes up incredibly frequently.

But considering you specifically mention conjugations, is it things like making the て-form/past/negative/formal and such that is currently causing you trouble? If that’s the case, there are some conjugation practice tools out there, though my personal experience is that simply coming across those conjugations in the wild is the best way to internalise them.

Vocab? Mnemonics
着く - I’m too cool (つく) to arrive on time
忙しい - Ice (いs) Ogre (oが) (from Wanikani)

Grammar? Depends on the level.
Early

  • Have a master particle sentence for reference that includes に、で、を、が、は、と
  • Conjugate 食べる and 飲む (or 2 verbs of your choice, る and う verbs) anytime a verb or auxiliary verb is available and store them in a spreadsheet or word doc so you can line them up and see them together
  • If you don’t know the kanji or the sentences are more than 50% unknown words, you probably need more vocab

Middle

  • Revisit the base forms. に => にとって、を => を経て
  • Understand the synonyms, antonyms.

Late

  • Have an immersion example that lands it for you
  • Example: From Go Go Loser Rangers Anime - 「こんいちは!あるいは、こんばんは!」

I learned kanji individually while I also learned words, so learning new vocab isn’t that difficult. Sometimes by knowing the meaning of the kanji, I can kind of “guess” what the word means and its pronunciation, this way I can remember them easily.
(A lot of people don’t recommend learning kanji like this and just learn words. I guess it depends on the person. It worked fine for me)

But there are moments where I encounter words that for some reason my brain just refuses to learn. In this case (and grammar) what has helped me A LOT is reading. I started reading when I was 2 years into studying (easy content was too boring) and my reading comprehension, speed, and retention has improved a lot. So my suggestion would be to immerse in whatever content you like.

Also if you are having too many ghosts or difficult time learning some words, you can stop adding newer ones. You don’t really need to add new things everyday. Sometimes its good to take a “break” from new content and just work on these to let them sit in your brain properly.