Number of Users per Level

Bunpro
#1

Hello,

I was very bored, so I extracted some data from this page and got this nice little graph out of it (Last update on 26 October 2020). Orange is the data for 26 October 2020, while blue shows the amount of users for 16 July 2019.

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Data
User Level Number of Users
1 2829
2 2149
3 1369
4 1134
5 946
6 860
7 794
8 678
9 690
10 625
11 556
12 540
13 466
14 428
15 384
16 381
17 345
18 301
19 289
20 279
21 268
22 255
23 241
24 202
25 209
26 195
27 202
28 169
29 182
30 160
31 172
32 180
33 158
34 151
35 153
36 117
37 123
38 120
39 96
40 114
41 95
42 114
43 89
44 91
45 105
46 88
47 100
48 75
49 72
50 68
51 61
52 70
53 61
54 49
55 60
56 41
57 50
58 53
59 37
60 39
61 33
62 39
63 36
64 24
65 33
66 29
67 33
68 26
69 25
70 26
71 31
72 24
73 18
74 20
75 13
76 9
77 9
78 7
79 9
80 9
81 5
82 4
83 7
84 7
85 7
86 3
87 1
88 1
89 1
90 1
91 2
92 0
93 0
94 0
95 0
96 0
97 0
98 0
99 0
100 0

Here are also graphs based on how many XP a user at least has based on their user level.

Linear:
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Logarithmic:
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Data
Amount of acquired XP Amount of Users with at least this amount of XP Associated Level
100 2829 1
300 2149 2
600 1369 3
1000 1134 4
1500 946 5
2100 860 6
2800 794 7
3600 678 8
4500 690 9
5500 625 10
6600 556 11
7800 540 12
9100 466 13
10500 428 14
12000 384 15
13600 381 16
15300 345 17
17100 301 18
19000 289 19
21000 279 20
23100 268 21
25300 255 22
27600 241 23
30000 202 24
32500 209 25
35100 195 26
37800 202 27
40600 169 28
43500 182 29
46500 160 30
49600 172 31
52800 180 32
56100 158 33
59500 151 34
63000 153 35
66600 117 36
70300 123 37
74100 120 38
78000 96 39
82000 114 40
86100 95 41
90300 114 42
94600 89 43
99000 91 44
103500 105 45
108100 88 46
112800 100 47
117600 75 48
122500 72 49
127500 68 50
132600 61 51
137800 70 52
143100 61 53
148500 49 54
154000 60 55
159600 41 56
165300 50 57
171100 53 58
177000 37 59
183000 39 60
189100 33 61
195300 39 62
201600 36 63
208000 24 64
214500 33 65
221100 29 66
227800 32 67
234600 26 68
241500 25 69
248500 26 70
255600 31 71
262800 24 72
270100 18 73
277500 20 74
285000 13 75
292600 9 76
300300 9 77
308100 7 78
316000 9 79
324000 9 80
332100 5 81
340300 4 82
348600 7 83
357000 7 84
365500 7 85
374100 3 86
382800 1 87
391600 1 88
400500 1 89
409500 1 90
418600 2 91
427800 0 92
437100 0 93
446500 0 94
456000 0 95
465600 0 96
475300 0 97
485100 0 98
495000 0 99
505000 0 100

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Older Graphs
Graphs 16 July 2020

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Data
User Level Number of Users
1 897
2 680
3 440
4 412
5 317
6 318
7 271
8 294
9 241
10 233
11 234
12 179
13 205
14 185
15 139
16 155
17 157
18 134
19 112
20 136
21 115
22 101
23 99
24 90
25 117
26 97
27 103
28 94
29 79
30 81
31 75
32 65
33 58
34 52
35 57
36 61
37 34
38 48
39 38
40 40
41 27
42 53
43 39
44 39
45 34
46 19
47 31
48 27
49 27
50 23
51 17
52 12
53 21
54 15
55 10
56 11
57 14
58 14
59 6
60 4
61 6
62 4
63 2
64 3
65 3
66 3
67 0
68 0
69 0
70 0
71 0
72 1
73 0
74 0
75 0
76 0
77 0
78 0
79 0
80 0
81 1
82 0
83 0
84 1
85 0
86 0
87 0
88 0
89 0
90 0
91 0
92 0
93 0
94 0
95 0
96 0
97 0
98 0
99 0
100 0

Here are also graphs based on how many XP a user at least has based on their user level.

Linear:

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Logarithmic:

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Data
Amount of acquired XP Amount of Users with at least this amount of XP Associated Level
100 897 1
300 680 2
600 440 3
1000 412 4
1500 317 5
2100 318 6
2800 271 7
3600 294 8
4500 241 9
5500 233 10
6600 234 11
7800 179 12
9100 205 13
10500 185 14
12000 139 15
13600 155 16
15300 157 17
17100 134 18
19000 112 19
21000 136 20
23100 115 21
25300 101 22
27600 99 23
30000 90 24
32500 117 25
35100 97 26
37800 103 27
40600 94 28
43500 79 29
46500 81 30
49600 75 31
52800 65 32
56100 58 33
59500 52 34
63000 57 35
66600 61 36
70300 34 37
74100 48 38
78000 38 39
82000 40 40
86100 27 41
90300 53 42
94600 39 43
99000 39 44
103500 34 45
108100 19 46
112800 31 47
117600 27 48
122500 27 49
127500 23 50
132600 17 51
137800 12 52
143100 21 53
148500 15 54
154000 10 55
159600 11 56
165300 14 57
171100 14 58
177000 6 59
183000 4 60
189100 6 61
195300 4 62
201600 2 63
208000 3 64
214500 3 65
221100 3 66
227800 0 67
234600 0 68
241500 0 69
248500 0 70
255600 0 71
262800 1 72
270100 0 73
277500 0 74
285000 0 75
292600 0 76
300300 0 77
308100 0 78
316000 0 79
324000 0 80
332100 1 81
340300 0 82
348600 0 83
357000 1 84
365500 0 85
374100 0 86
382800 0 87
391600 0 88
400500 0 89
409500 0 90
418600 0 91
427800 0 92
437100 0 93
446500 0 94
456000 0 95
465600 0 96
475300 0 97
485100 0 98
495000 0 99
505000 0 100
First attempt with incorrect data

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Does anyone know why there’s this little peek all of a sudden at Level 51? It goes from 23 users to 148 users. Was there a recent change to change the level range form 50 to 100? It seems like quite a strange spread for something that may have been such a recent change.

Here are the numbers if you want them for yourself

Levels as of 5PM on 16-07-2019

Level Number of Users
1 897
2 680
3 440
4 412
5 317
6 318
7 271
8 294
9 241
10 233
11 234
12 179
13 205
14 185
15 139
16 155
17 157
18 134
19 112
20 136
21 115
22 101
23 99
24 90
25 117
26 97
27 103
28 94
29 79
30 81
31 75
32 65
33 58
34 52
35 57
36 61
37 34
38 48
39 38
40 40
41 27
42 53
43 39
44 39
45 34
46 19
47 31
48 27
49 27
50 23
51 148
52 131
53 119
54 98
55 83
56 73
57 62
58 48
59 34
60 28
61 24
62 18
63 14
64 12
65 9
66 6
67 3
68 3
69 3
70 3
71 3
72 3
73 2
74 2
75 2
76 2
77 2
78 2
79 2
80 2
81 2
82 1
83 1
84 1
85 0
86 0
87 0
88 0
89 0
90 0
91 0
92 0
93 0
94 0
95 0
96 0
97 0
98 0
99 0
100 0
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XP per level
Will there ever be a graph showing community stats?
#2

This is quite interesting indeed.

Though, I’m a bit surprised that there aren’t any people at high levels. I wonder if no one has actually completed the entire course…

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#3

@Pep95 Interesting I will take a look at the data. There shouldn’t be a big jump like that I don’t think, I wonder if some people are ending up with multiple level badges throwing the count off?

It’s actually impossible to get to level 100 yet as the XP required to get there requires you to complete all of N1 (which we haven’t added much of yet).

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#4

Ah interesting! Might have found a little bug there then. The increase is very sudden, its almost like there are all of a sudden two exponential functions there.

Another thing that I noticed was that the part after 50 is quite a smooth graph, while the part of the graph before 50 has quite a large variance. Maybe this could give a clue as to what the error might be?

EDIT: I double checked the page again just to be sure, and that data agrees with my graph.

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#5

Keep in mind that this data only includes users that have visited the forum at least once.

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#6

I know that it’s a well-known fact within the Japanese learning community that lots of people hit a wall when they reach N2 because the grammar becomes super complicated, so they take the attitude of “well I know enough now, I’ll just stop there.”
Level 50 would work out at about that stage, but I agree the peak does seem ridiculously high even taking that into consideration. Also it peaks very quickly rather than a steady increase.

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#7

I would be curious to see what it looks like taking into account how much longer it takes to level from 50+ compared to 1-20.

#8

I’m not quite sure what the pattern there is.
Am I correct in saying that it is (future level)*100 xp to go to the next level?

EDIT: Given the above is true, this is what that would look like:

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The graph is smushed to the left of course, since you need less XP for the first section of levels.

For clearer data, I also thought it was nifty to have an algorithmic plot as well:

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Also here is the data again:

Data
Amount of acquired XP Amount of users with at least this amount of XP Associated Level
100 897 1
300 680 2
600 440 3
1000 412 4
1500 317 5
2100 318 6
2800 271 7
3600 294 8
4500 241 9
5500 233 10
6600 234 11
7800 179 12
9100 205 13
10500 185 14
12000 139 15
13600 155 16
15300 157 17
17100 134 18
19000 112 19
21000 136 20
23100 115 21
25300 101 22
27600 99 23
30000 90 24
32500 117 25
35100 97 26
37800 103 27
40600 94 28
43500 79 29
46500 81 30
49600 75 31
52800 65 32
56100 58 33
59500 52 34
63000 57 35
66600 61 36
70300 34 37
74100 48 38
78000 38 39
82000 40 40
86100 27 41
90300 53 42
94600 39 43
99000 39 44
103500 34 45
108100 19 46
112800 31 47
117600 27 48
122500 27 49
127500 23 50
132600 148 51
137800 131 52
143100 119 53
148500 98 54
154000 83 55
159600 73 56
165300 62 57
171100 48 58
177000 34 59
183000 28 60
189100 24 61
195300 18 62
201600 14 63
208000 12 64
214500 9 65
221100 6 66
227800 3 67
234600 3 68
241500 3 69
248500 3 70
255600 3 71
262800 3 72
270100 2 73
277500 2 74
285000 2 75
292600 2 76
300300 2 77
308100 2 78
316000 2 79
324000 2 80
332100 2 81
340300 1 82
348600 1 83
357000 1 84
365500 0 85
374100 0 86
382800 0 87
391600 0 88
400500 0 89
409500 0 90
418600 0 91
427800 0 92
437100 0 93
446500 0 94
456000 0 95
465600 0 96
475300 0 97
485100 0 98
495000 0 99
505000 0 100

EDIT2: It seems that that approximation was not entirely correct.
When I reach level 23, I will have 25600 XP, but according to my graph, I will only have achieved 23100 XP. So I’m missing something somewhere.

#9

wow this is really interesting, commenting to come back to this discussion. Surprising there are no people higher than level 84.

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#10

Well, and Bunpro only recently added N1, so I wonder if those were subscription users who hit the ‘end’ of Bunpro at the time and stopped using it.

#11

Then that would also be a lot of people who hit the end, did a little, and then suddenly stopped again.

If it were just a peak I’d agree, but this behaviour is still quite strange.

#12

Yes I can verify the issue with the multiple level badges. It seems like I am currently still part of level 51 and level 52.

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#14

Ah, so it might be that starting from 51, the graph is cumulative?
Taking that into account, this is what the graph would look like:

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Jup! That’s the issue!
Here are the graphs based on XP, with a linear and logarithmic X-axis.

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I think this should be the correct representation.
I updated the images in the top post.

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#15

I’m surprised there even are level 84 people, actually! They must be using the “I know this!” button liberally. I felt guilty just by using it on N5 stuff…

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#16

Wow interesting, thanks for making this! Surprised that level the level 35-ish has so few when I’m still in the N4 range…

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#17

I’m not really sure why people are binding their JLTP Nx range with maximum XP

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According to this, you get XP based on what part of a streak you are in. So why would it be linked to N level? Do you lose the XP when you get something wrong again?
If I make a mistake in my reviews at Streak 10, go back to Streak 8 (wait does that even happen in BunPro?), can I then get the 80 and 90XP again?

Can someone explain?

#18

Cool! Personally, I would love to see the evolution of subscription users over time but I guess that is confidential :sweat_smile:

I would love to see those peaks and try to find if there is any correlation to anything (eg. Dec Sale, before/after JLPT), and also if the user base is growing at a healthy pace!

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#19

You are right. For example, I am level 50+ but I am only halfway through N3.

You do not lose XP when you get something wrong, you just remain at the same streak until you get it right the next time.

As far as I noticed, you can only obtain any particular streak exp once. That is why there is a cap to how high users can level up right now. Otherwise, some people will be redoing N5 material like crazy and get some crazy high level.

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#20

Ah! That explains it. I think I’ve been doing wanikani for too long. :sweat_smile:

So it’s 5850 xp per item.

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A total of 723 items are currently available. So that is a maximum of 4,229,550 xp. Seems like level 100 is already possible?

Maximum XP and Level
#21

Sorry to divert, are you using Android? I just noticed my iOS grammar counts are lower than your version (my version is from June 26th). I have 160 for N4, 199 for N3 and 197 for N2.

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