Tool for Tracking Pages/Books Read/Reading

[sweetbeems]

@Megumin

I’m also keeping my own thing, custom made, used to be a spreadsheet, now is a bit more convoluted with it’s own database and php and stuff,

Wow! I love it

@Megumin

Since you are here can I be selfish and do a feature request?

@Megumin

When I put on the drop down as Finished it would be nice if the Current Page field auto filled to the Book Page Count, like it happens when you click on “I’m finished” on the front page.

Please that’s why i’m here! Send in the feature requests

You know, that probably sense. My only hesitation is that I’m a little wary of autoupdating things too much. For the ‘update’ popup, it’s an explicit “I’m finished” button where you can assume it’ll update the current page too, whereas in this popup it’s simply a status change so maybe a little unexpected. However, I’m struggling to think of a case where you wouldn’t want to update the current page too. I’ll think on it!

@Megumin

And also the ability to put the time there would be nice.

Oof, i probably won’t do this one unfortunately, as we don’t want to make this popup too complicated! I understand the desire though. What i may do is allow you to toggle to the ‘update’ popup from this popup? I don’t know, that also may be confusing… but it’s another approach.

I really do understand though that’d it be easier to just do all the actions you want from one popup. And from your library.

[Megumin]

@sweetbeems

You know, that probably sense. My only hesitation is that I’m a little wary of autoupdating things too much. For the ‘update’ popup, it’s an explicit “I’m finished” button where you can assume it’ll update the current page too, whereas in this popup it’s simply a status change so maybe a little unexpected. However, I’m struggling to think of a case where you wouldn’t want to update the current page too. I’ll think on it!

You can highlight the field so the user notices that it has been changed. And a revert button in case the user doesn’t want to update to that value. Just throwing some ideas there.

I’m not sure there’s a case where you would want to mark it as Finished and leave the page count less than the total pages… but who knows, there might be some obscure reason in someone’s workflow.

@sweetbeems

Oof, i probably won’t do this one unfortunately, as we don’t want to make this popup too complicated! I understand the desire though. What i may do is allow you to toggle to the ‘update’ popup from this popup? I don’t know, that also may be confusing… but it’s another approach.

That would also work!. Something like this:

You can probably think of ways of making it look better though. CSS and I are sworn enemies.

[sweetbeems]

@Megumin

You can probably think of ways of making it look better though. CSS and I are sworn enemies.

Unfortunately that wouldn’t work for mobile, but certainly could figure something out! It also might fix your ‘finished’ status change problem too in a more elegant way. The highlighting / reverting you describe could be built but is a little complicated.

But you know, I don’t want to take over this thread too much! It is @Lock’s thread after all and we really should be discussing his awesome spreadsheet (I may be stealing some of those graphs… especially difficulty vs enjoyment). If anyone wants to discuss a lot, please come over to this wanikani thread (open development thread)

[zerohbeat]

@Megumin

I’m also keeping my own thing, custom made, used to be a spreadsheet, now is a bit more convoluted with it’s own database and php and stuff, but it’s always nice to have a public library of what you have read, and is very useful for discovery of the next thing, especially the grading part.

I also really really considered doing something like this too due to Anilist and MyAnimeList not being that satisfactory (for my needs hehe).

Congrats for something like this. Really cool!

[Megumin]

@zerohbeat

I also really really considered doing something like this too due to Anilist and MyAnimeList not being that satisfactory (for my needs hehe).

The thing is I keep track of absolutely everything Japanese related.
So I can’t settle with one site exclusively on the stats offered by learnnatively, bunpro, bookmeter, etc…

I have also integrated the tool into various things such as a Streamdeck and a Discord bot, and technically since you are in control, the possibilities are endless. You could even integrate it with the API of the websites and get the data automatically and things like that… but that might be outside of my knowledge scope.

I have recently come across a tool that helps that is open source that I have added to my report workflow, I’ll write about it soon in more detail as I finish tinkering with it along with the other changes I have made since the initial post. This tool is more designed towards software development but it works as well for other things such as Language learning tasks.

[Lock]

Ahh I see!
Btw out of curiosity do you buy them online or physical?
Hmm has your reading speed also improved kinda, progressively? Sometimes I debate tracking my reading speed but it’s prolly only worth it if there’s a change of some kind

Do you know if there’s a guide to how to add the page count to bookmeter?
Edit: Found 【読書データ・グラフの管理】ページ数を修正する - 読書メーター

Ahh I see, I see
I will! Although I think I’ll make a new bookmeter profile cause my old one has only one book

[Lock]

Ahh interesting!

Do you have pics? I kinda wonder what that looks like

I’ve started something like that multiple times in the past but I always forget about it

[Megumin]

@Lock

Btw out of curiosity do you buy them online or physical?
Hmm has your reading speed also improved kinda, progressively? Sometimes I debate tracking my reading speed but it’s prolly only worth it if there’s a change of some kind

Both, physical and online. It depends on the title. The easier titles like Tsubasa Bunko I tend to buy physical. Also the series I like I often buy physical. The good side of digital is easier dictionary lookups, but I think it’s also part of the charm to look up the word/kanji manually.

I try not to invest too much in digital since it scares me that I might get locked out of the content I paid for. That’s why Bookwalker is a big no, as I can not keep access if something happened to my account for example.

@Lock

I will! Although I think I’ll make a new bookmeter profile cause my old one has only one book

If you end up doing, please share or send a follow!

[Lock]

Ooh I see!
That’s very convenient I guess since I already have a ranking system to go off of

Also whoa to be able to talk to the founder of a website o.o I’m kinda honored
Man internet forums are amazing

Do you have experience in CS (cause website)? I’m thinking of majoring in it but I’m not sure what it’s like. I think the other CS student I talked to said it was frustrating how much her code affected her mood but aside from that very interesting.

Ahh stats though
Man that sounds so epic
Like imagine having access to as many data points as there are users
I wonder what kind of interesting conclusions might arise

[Lock]

Ahh whoa
Is that in the thread you made? I should prolly bookmark that sounds fascinating

[Megumin]

@Lock

Is that in the thread you made?

This is the thread I made back in the day:

My 300+ day streak of doing Japanese daily

Objectives of this long post: Get feedback, share the methods, and maybe get new ideas. Background: What I’ve been doing since a bit earlier of new year, as the usual new year self-objectives, is a set of exercises/tasks to help me on my quest to learn enough Japanese where I can confidently read and enjoy Japanese media. Note that my main objective currently is reading, so it might not be the best for everyone. I do have N5, N4 and N3 certificates, although this last one I feel a bit like…

I intend to update it soon, when a year is over since I started.
As for reading speed, which I forgot to answer. Short answer yes, the speed is getting better.

The long answer is I’m not sure if it’s because of skill, or because I’m able to focus more on getting the context than getting stuck in X specific kanji/word. That’s why I intend a revisit.

Also now that comes to mind the revisit, @sweetbeems I don’t think there’s a current way to add multiple reads of the same book on learnatively right now, or I’m missing something?

[Lock]

@sweetbeems

But you know, I don’t want to take over this thread too much! It is @Lock’s thread after all and we really should be discussing his awesome spreadsheet (I may be stealing some of those graphs… especially difficulty vs enjoyment). If anyone wants to discuss a lot, please come over to this wanikani thread (open development thread)

Ahh it’s cool!

Also feel free to steal some graphs lol
Prolly don’t take how I’ve added random linear functions tho cause I don’t think those end up being very representative of the data

[Megumin]

What I find problematic of your approach, regarding difficulty is that you have it in a variable form.

While learnatively uses “Level” based, your difficulty % is going to change over time. Hopefully to the better, but that means you will have to constantly revisit to get accurate results

Maybe you should pair your grading/enjoyment with the date you did the read to get an idea in the future, as you add more data to it, you might forget when you have read and how far you have advanced since then.

[Lock]

Ahh I see

Lol I did actually see the Tsubasa Bunko books you bought in your thread. How are they? I read a different book by the author of 怪盗レッド and that one was pretty good albeit kinda formulaic. Is 星にねがいを！ that one about the girl who has a one-sided crush and then something or other magical happens?

Speaking of dictionaries
Do you know about Shirabe Jisho? The kanji handwriting recognition feels really good (even for someone like me who accidentally writes everything wrong). Sometimes you can legit just vaguely scribble part of a kanji (like if you saw it on say a ds game font) and it still gets it somehow. Makes manual lookups a breeze

Hmm I guess that makes sense. It’s pretty unlikely to happen but it would really suck if it did

Digital is really good for prices though tbh. I wanted to send one of my best friends a book and shipping would have cost upwards of 150 bucks. Made the like 17 dollar ebook seem reasonable (also thank goodness Honto has gifting and allows foreign cards)

Ahh I will! Neither of my accounts are at all filled out but I think I’ve followed on 1/2 hang on

[Megumin]

@Lock

Shirabe Jisho

I don’t have an Apple device and seems like an Apple thing only.

@Lock

星にねがいを！

Utterly boring sadly, I had to drop it. It felt like a card captor sakura knockoff.

[Lock]

Ooh I see hmm

I mean that’s kinda the point I think
Not really to measure the difficulty of an individual book so much as to measure my enjoyment of something in relation to how difficult I found it to be at the time, if that makes sense

It does mean the average difficulty measurements are kinda useless tho I think

What do you mean by difficulty percent tho? I feel like I might be misreading your comment lol

Ahh true though I should prolly add dates to things

[sweetbeems]

@Lock

Do you have experience in CS (cause website)? I’m thinking of majoring in it but I’m not sure what it’s like. I think the other CS student I talked to said it was frustrating how much her code affected her mood but aside from that very interesting.

I majored in physics but yes I did take some CS classes. CS really isn’t required though to build a website… most of the things you learn in CS aren’t that applicable to most websites. If you want to learn how to build websites, you just kinda have to start trying But if you are interested in coding, CS is of course a good degree!

@Megumin

Also now that comes to mind the revisit, @sweetbeems I don’t think there’s a current way to add multiple reads of the same book on learnatively right now, or I’m missing something?

No not yet . There’s a very long to do list and unfortunately I don’t think that one is terribly high on the list. It is on there though!

[Lock]

Ooh I see.
Although I do wonder if revisiting a book might add new factors into the mix? Cause it might go quicker just from already knowing what’s happening

Also I guess being focus on getting the context rather than getting suck on a word is also a skill

[Lock]

Ooh it might be. I looked and up and apparently there’s an APK but I have no idea what that means

Aww that’s too bad. The cover’s pretty

[Megumin]

@sweetbeems

No not yet . There’s a very long to do list and unfortunately I don’t think that one is terribly high on the list. It is on there though!

Thanks for letting me know, maybe by the time I revisit it’s implemented!