Verb[て] - Grammar Discussion

Present Tense

Structure

  • [る-Verbs] →
  • [う-Verbs: す] → して
  • [う-Verbs: く] → いて
  • [う-Verbs: ぐ]→
  • [う-Verbs: う・つ・る] → って
  • [う-Verbs: む・ぬ・ぶ] →
  • Irregular Verbs [する] → して

:warning: いく→いって, する→して

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How does the structure table fit with the example for “いく→いって” which is correct, yet if I follow the table: [う-Verbs: く]-> いて seems like I would end up with “いく→いて”
Maybe I am misunderstanding this structure table somehow… or this is an exception?
Thanks!

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Never mind… I think I understand that the “Warning” symbol is telling me that these are exceptions. I like this warning symbol (in the Grammar Discussion) better than the finger pointing on the main review page. It is more clear to me that these are exceptions… something I did not realize before. User error!

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I agree that the warning sign is better that the finger.


Also, I don’t see why the で would be orange instead of yellow since it’s part of the primary construction of the grammar.

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@seanblue @barclayaz
I have changed the structure to be more understandable (including :warning: suggestion). :+1:

It doesn’t seem to say what the actual use of the て form is.

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て form has a lot of usages. :sweat_smile:

Hey :smile:

Basically, a verb in て form + Phrase means: “verb and Phrase”. In other words, it connects sentences.
AてB can be also used to state reason/cause A for the B. But it is MUCH weaker than から or ので.

Like @seanblue says, て form has many uses and this lesson was more about conjugation than the uses.
I will try to add another lesson with example sentences and more explanations.

:bowing_man:

ah okay,
thanks for the answer

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In a sentence like this:
撮影は3か月かけて行われました。

How to exactly describe the function of the て form? Does it mean “The photo shooting took 3 months and has been carried out”? Or “…took 3 months to be finished”?
How to translate 行う here?
And would the sentence also be correct using the intransitive かかる instead of the transitive かける?

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Hey, you can use both:
撮影は3か月かけて行われました。

撮影は3か月かかって行われました。

They will differ a bit in nuance, the former would mean that you planned it to take 3 months. The later would mean that you didn’t expect it to take that much time, sort of negative nuance.

It took three months to finish the movie.

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Thanks for the explanation!

So the て form has a function like “in order to” rather than “and” in that sentence?

Another example:
彼は日本を代表して会議に出た。

How to translate the て form here?

  1. He represented Japan and attended the conference
  2. He attended the conference and represented Japan
  3. He represented Japan at a conference
  4. In order to represent Japan he attended the conference

I don’t really get the sequence/order of things connected with て

If it’s the “and” meaning it has to be in order. So I don’t think sentence #2 is valid. Sentence #1 would be correct in that case.

But sometimes て form can translate like an adverb. I’d probably translate the sentence to “he attended the conference as a representative from Japan”.

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Thanks, the adverbial function makes indeed sense in this sentence/translation.

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Is it me or does Bunpro not explicitly teach the negative form of て, ie. なくて?
It just forms parts of other grammar points, and also, reviews for other items use it and assume I know it, eg/

(Please ignore that こと became こた in my answer there as well >_< )

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You are actually right!

I have added it to the to do list right now!

Thank you!

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I dont understand the first two lines of the ‘meaning’ page:

V(る1) → 見 → 見

V(る5) → 座 →座 って

What do the “1” and the “5” mean?

There’s a link to the structure legend below the structure:

https://bunpro.jp/structure_legend

There you can find all explanations with examples for the abbreviations.

There is a lot of information in this review point (13 associations, more associations than there are levels). Shouldn’t this really be 13 different grammar points? The problem I encounter is getting a review for one association (say V(る1) → 見 → 見 ), and then the next review is for a totally different association (say する→して), and then quite often failing it. I see that by doing this, eventually all of the associations I don’t know will be added to ghost reviews, however they don’t get trained through all of the SRS levels individually, weakening the retention of the info (also making it a frustrating experience).

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Honestly, I think conjugations are best learned outside of Bunpro. I think Kitsun has a nice deck on conjugations.

https://kitsun.io/store/detail/5cb36c68eb68123c400f0168

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