Thanks, the adverbial function makes indeed sense in this sentence/translation.
Is it me or does Bunpro not explicitly teach the negative form of て, ie. なくて?
It just forms parts of other grammar points, and also, reviews for other items use it and assume I know it, eg/
(Please ignore that こと became こた in my answer there as well >_< )
You are actually right!
I have added it to the to do list right now!
Thank you!
I dont understand the first two lines of the ‘meaning’ page:
V(る1) → 見 る → 見 て
V(る5) → 座 る →座 って
What do the “1” and the “5” mean?
There’s a link to the structure legend below the structure:
https://bunpro.jp/structure_legend
There you can find all explanations with examples for the abbreviations.
There is a lot of information in this review point (13 associations, more associations than there are levels). Shouldn’t this really be 13 different grammar points? The problem I encounter is getting a review for one association (say V(る1) → 見 る → 見 て), and then the next review is for a totally different association (say する→して), and then quite often failing it. I see that by doing this, eventually all of the associations I don’t know will be added to ghost reviews, however they don’t get trained through all of the SRS levels individually, weakening the retention of the info (also making it a frustrating experience).
Honestly, I think conjugations are best learned outside of Bunpro. I think Kitsun has a nice deck on conjugations.
I know I’m commenting two years later, but
I agree!
It’d be very helpful to be able to review each of these separately.
Purely imo, but the て-form is just really one of those things you need to brute force memorize because you will see it SO much. Having 13 individual points would probably just end up clogging the review after you become a master of the conjugation! I remember at first it was really difficult but I did the following and after about and hour or two I never forgot it since.
KANJI-Link: Learn Japanese grammar (JLPT N5) with free video lessons! Watch the first and fourth video here and for the て-form I would suggest creating a little song in your head for each group.
https://steven-kraft.com/projects/japanese/teform/ After that you can use this little nifty website to crank out some practice right away and let your brain really absorb the song you created yourself from earlier. Trust me, this will all just suddenly click one day and you’ll ask yourself how you could have ever been tricked by it before hahaha. Everyone learns things differently but this is what worked for me and hopefully it can help you get over that tricky beginner hump!
Thanks I’m sure you’re right. It’s just a bit overwhelming when a lot of the other N5 grammar points are either things I already knew or are just ‘one thing’ each. Thanks for the links too!
Yeah N5 is really tricky because there’s a lot of material and rules you have to “memorize” (or maybe remember/learn is a better term?) and it can feel overwhelming. The graded readers in Bunpro will help out a ton, along with any natural reading you stumble upon in the wild. While all this is not exactly fun at first, you’ll see this so much going forward that as long as you have the basics down you’ll just eventually grasp the concept through repetition alone. Best of luck!
Thank you! Yeah I’m finding the graded readers really helpful. I’ve mainly been learning Japanese through Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone so far so even though there is a lot of vocab and grammar I know so far, it’s all polite language so I’m struggling with the casual language being taught here at the same time. But I’m sure that’ll come with exposure
Are you using a textbook? I used Genki and it drills the hell out of you with all the conjugations that you encounter in N5. I would go running and listen to the practice section’s audio and that really helped.
If it’s any consolation, the て form conjugates the same way as casual past tense た, so once you’ve learned either form you already know the other.
So a verb followed by て means it is being done? Like “ing” at the end of words in english? Or am I not understanding this correctly?
Yep! This Tae Kim passage should expand on it a bit more.
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/complete/progressive_tense
You’ll also learn how て can be used to link things, but for now yes you’re on the right path!
My man pee pee bailing me out again
That webpage made it a lot more clear than the bunpro snippet ty
Yeee there’s a few N5 points that you need to learn off-site because there’s a lot to them, this is certainly one of them. Glad I could help, good luck with the conjugation
No, you are thinking of いる which is an auxiliary verb that attaches after <conjunctive form of verb>て.
て is a conjunctive particle. It allows you to connect two clauses together. There are more grammar points on this site which show how it can be used.
Oops I completely screwed up, for some reason I thought this was the ている point and went off that wrong assumption. @gyroninja is 100% correct, disregard my earlier post!
I didn’t understand any of that.
Would you be so kind to give an example or dumb it down a bit?