Future of Bunpro’s (missing) Grammar - Update!

Nice suggestion - this is one is fairly common. Added it to the list for future consideration!

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Is that simply the negative version of this?

I guess that would make sense as a way of saying “I will not decide/I will not consider”. Like, I’m not even going to consider doing that, there is not way I’m gonna do that.

Not sure if it’s already covered by the to-be-added ~てくれたらと思います grammar point, but just wanted to say that when searching for this point all the resources I’ve seen list this as 〜ていただければと思います, so it may be better to list it as that so it’s easier for people to search for. If that’s actually a separate grammar point though, then would it be possible to add 〜ていただければと思います to the list as well? Thank you!

(Interestingly, most of my coworkers use 〜ていただけたらと思います. There’s also quite a few articles that say this whole grammar point is 変な日本語, 不適切, or NG, so would be interesting to include any relevant info on that in the caution section as well!)

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This may or may not be the approach we’ve already taken in the draft of this write-up :eyes:

(By the way, the items on the list up top are more of a rough guide to what we originally wanted to add based on suggestions. So subject to change, etc. I will make a mental note to update the list after the next update)

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「形容詞・形容動詞」+ことといったら、~。
The “Try!” textbook series lists this as N3 grammar.

【JLPT N3文法】「~ことといったら」教案|ゆーじ@日本語904

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Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll add it to the list for consideration.

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(word)の(first letter)の字もない ー not a shred of (word)

For example:

人情のにの字もない
反省のはの字もない

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Don’t see やっと mentioned here yet. Always thought it was weird とうとう, いよいよ, and 遂に all got grammar points but やっと didn’t despite being the one I come across most often.

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Since it is already mentioned in the
verb(ます)-stem +にくい
maybe it would make sense to add
verb(ます)-stem +づらい(辛い)?

Or as a variation of にくい?

Edit: Found it in the update list. ^^

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That fact that it is the most common is basically the reason it isn’t included in a lot of grammar resources, and is just considered vocab. I’ll see if we can add a link for our やっと vocab entry to the other ‘finally’ points. That might be a good stop-gap measure.

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Is there a grammar point that covers をして/をしに that I just haven’t come across yet? I don’t see it as its own point (are they even the same point? I can find a lot more on をして than on をしに on Google). It seems like it’s very formal/literary so might not be high priority, but I’ve seen both used in example sentences so might be good to include.

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Can you give some example sentences of the usage your talking about specifically? I am guessing you’re talking about をして being used with causative expressions but just want to check what you mean. Any examples of what you have in mind would be greatly appreciated!

Yes. Unfortunately, I don’t think Bunpro lets you search for text in example sentences (which would be nice), but this specifically is what I mean: をして - Wiktionary, the free dictionary

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Did a quick search and I don’t think anyone has mentioned it yet, but it would be nice to have a write up for ~ばと思います.

I see it used quite often at work and it threw me for a loop the first time I saw it!

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I’d like to suggest the following but I noticed it’s not really listed as a grammar point anywhere else

noun+日和
A good day for ~~

I learned it as a grammar point in the textbook Dekiru Nihongo but it doesn’t seem that widely listed elsewhere so I understand if it’s not of great importance/worth being added, but just thought I’d mention it!

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Haven’t seen 又は mentioned. Unlike やっと in my last post, I haven’t seen 又は outside of the N4 vocab deck. It seems relatively synonymous with the か grammar point meaning or (aside from formailty/politeness I’m guessing), but there’s no relation mentioned between the two, and when adding 又は to my reviews it’ll flag か as outright wrong. At the very least, expanding the summary of 又は to distinguish the two would be helpful.

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~によりけり=~しだいで決まる・~によって決まること

手引き:ゲームのルールも場合によりけりであるが、人死に厭わないものだということだけは、確かである。

これをただの偶然で済ませるかどうかは人によりけりだが、俺は引っかかっている。

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It would be helpful to have the たり (N5, Lesson 7) expanded and have adjectives included. (Only mentioned in comparison to や)
I think I did not see this in the list above.

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~しな しな | Bunpro

小説:行きしなに比べて、二倍近くになっている気がした。

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Grammar point from my school’s textbook that bunpro does not have outside of a couple of uses as individual vocab words:

[た]ものではない - Impossible to do

Indicates that something is not worth doing, not good, or unbearable. Often
conveys a strong negative opinion or dissatisfaction.

The textbook labels it as N2 as well.

Example sentences (this is copy-pasted from the textbook, so I’m not sure whether or not it can be used by Bunpro officially)

こんなまずい料理、食べられたものではない。

こんな料理、お客さんに出せたものじゃない。作り直して。

この映画は、演技がひどくて見られたものではない。

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