It rained all day, I’m not feeling well with runny nose.
Managed to do WK and BP reviews after hours in bed. Feeling better but still dizzy.
I need to read more about みたいに and みたいな, I don’t fully understand it.
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Get well soon.
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@jamie Get well soon!
WK reviews and lessons. I don’t currently have a set time to reviews so sometimes I miss the first four hour review and I’ve really noticed how much worse I remember those things if the interval is too long. Good to know, but not anything I’m going to try and fix right now. Because it doesn’t bother me to get something wrong a time or two especially early in the SRS!
BP reviews and two new lessons: になる and N + まで. Also completely for got the なる part overnight because once again didn’t hit the first four hour review window. I didn’t get to lessons until late yesterday.
Also finally jumped back into doing a Japanese sentence. So many lessons to practice and grammar points to put together. I want to finally try some more complex sentences that use several pieces of new (to me) grammar.
Also: 
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After a break of lessons, started the N4 items on Bunpro. Did 6 of them, as a couple were more polite versions of an N5 item, and a couple more I already knew fairly well.
Over on wanikani, I keep failing on some of the kanji on my current level, and can see my level up date keep getting pushed back, so this will be my slowest level so far, but means I should really get on with the ~50 vocab lessons I currently have so I can get them out of the way when guru-ing the last few kanji.
Still doing a bit of Torii but a bit frustrating as the app only works on my laptop, so only do it once a day, but adding vocab there is so quick, and a lot I already know from elsewhere or wanikani so adding a bunch I only get a few new words. I like the auto-audioplay thing there so trying to do more than sounds, and not trying to read the kanji etc.
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@nanda @MissDagger Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
- Did WK and BP today despite a mild headache. I had good night sleep, so I’m feeling better know.
- I’m surprised that I made no mistakes on WK and BP. Going to add 10 more lessons today on WK.
- I noticed that みたいに is trickier since you need to identify the verb at the end of the sentence even though there is a noun immediately after. Whereas みたいな sentence don’t have verb after a noun.
- BP level up to 26. I still have a lot of ghosts, not adding a new lessons and use Renshuu and reading the dictionary instead to learn more about the grammar.
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Due to a bit of poor execution of my plan for yesterday, I only added lessons on WK and not on BP. Reviews in both places. Also tried making some sentences here. No one has pointed out the mistakes in one rather complex one and I don’t know if by some miracle I made none or because no one has had time to be the superhelpful peeps everyone here is. ^_____^ (This is not a cry for “GO LOOK FOR IT”, but just observation that I do not trust I didn’t make some mistakes.)
I look forward to when I know enough grammar to help people write sentences!
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Did WK and BP today.
- Had 89% accuracy on WK. Not too bad, I feel great since mistakes are for new kanji and apprentices number is down to manageable number.
- No mistakes on BP. Can finally spot the difference between みたいに and みたいな
- I’m still not going to add new lessons on BP, have to tackle those ghosts first.
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Level 17 here!
WK reviews and lessons. Almost got my lessons down to zero but I’m keeping with my 15 lessons a day, so didn’t get there. But I really like this pace. I hope it turns out to work great moving forward, as in that I will have less spikes of vocab at level up since hopefully I get through quite a bit while leveling up. 
BP reviews and 3 new lessons: たい, てください, and くらい . None of them that hard. I remember the first time I met て-form. It seemed so impossible and I’m already conjugating to it without trouble (I did the actual て-form lesson a week or two ago). Although I would not want to see me try to do it while speaking, but then I haven’t practiced speaking at all for 5 years and I didn’t study Japanese for most of that time. 
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Good Evening!
- At last, I hit 0 reviews again on both WK & BP!
- Levelled up from level 23 to 24 and unlocked Everest Badge and Study Streak 50 on BP.
- Levelled up from level 21 to 22 on WK on Jan 15th, 2019.
- I read both A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar and Multimedia Exercises for Basic Japanese Grammar slowly but everyday. I highly recommend this workbook for anyone who loves DBJG.
- Just one screenshot or two.
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So you like the multimedia book? I want to ask how far have you gotten or how much have you done, basically do you think you will do it all? More grammar exercises seems like a really good idea, so I’m wondering how highly I want to put it on my to-buy list.
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I love it. There are about 130 slides of powerpoint files. I opened 3 of them. I did one training about あげる くれる もらう. This one slide contains 53 sheets. Oh yes, many exercises.
Expect me to do this slowly along with zero review target on both WK & BP. And also Handwriting Kanji practice with 漢字の本 & Anki. I have more than 3 decks, but right now, I’m more active on Complete 10k Deck, and I ignore my WK Leeches on Anki because I do Leech Training + Self Study on WK almost everyday. I’m still building another deck though I’m not sure if I’ll still do it on Anki, I’ll probably just use Kitsun for this one, because it’s already there, it’s Noragami v.1 Kitsun deck.)
Edit: I found again the link that introduced me to this book for the very first time, yes, from someone on WK forum. 
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Reviews on WK and BP. 15 lessons on WK. This level feels really good going through. I will still have quite a bit of vocab that only gets unlocked upon level up, but it shouldn’t be the monster it has been before. And I’ve kept always having at least 15 lessons I can do each day, which is what I want. Serious consistency, except when I take a day off lessons here and there.
BP reviews and lessons. Reviews are starting to be much more here now since I keep adding grammar points all the time. Also keep having ghosts because I forget something specific like adding な in front of a noun for one grammar point (this morning).
Lessons were: ので (because/since), たことがある (have done before), and って (casual quotation).
So except for my mother tongue I have learned one other language to fluency, English. And I can’t remember learning this many constructs as grammar points (although to be fair, a lot of this was learnt for times in my life where I don’t remember learning other things either). Neither can I remember it for the four years of French I had in grade 6-9. Maybe they just didn’t teach them this explicitly. Maybe I need to go read Genki I and see what is in there and how it teaches. Just to see if there is a difference.
I’m not suggesting BunPro is doing anything wrong. I’m just wondering if a lot of these constructions aren’t taught in traditional language learning but instead you learn them through trial and error, from reading them and then using them (probably with mistakes). Or maybe I just have a very poor memory of my previous studies. ^____^
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Well… since the topic of this thread is a question, I hope it is OK to answer it with a “No”… 
I’m trying to get back into BunPro to prepare for the N3 and there is so much I have to catch up with. I hope I can eventually check in here with a nice little “0”. I think the community aspect is very helpful for keeping one motivated so I’m happy that I found this thread here. 
Let’s do this! 
I think it is not just BunPro doing this. Maybe it has to do with English being so close to our native (European) languages that learning English grammar was so intuitive that things could be done more easily? Maybe English grammar is taught in a similarly complex way to people whose native language is e.g. Japanese or Chinese? I remember watching a lot of English learning shows with Japanese people as the target audience and the approach seemed certainly different than when I learned English because they had a different set of challenges. But I agree and I’ve also heard people say it multiple times: a lot of the “grammar” you learn for the higher JLPT levels could just be considered vocabulary instead.
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頑張ろう！あのゼロを見たい。
I’m happy to find you here too Now I’m back to my reviews ne.
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Good morning everyone!
I was out all day and couldn’t report my progress yesterday 
Did WK and BP this morning. Only one mistake on WK, waiting for level up according to wkstats would be in a few days.
- Level up BP to 27
- Already forgetting のが下手、I entered が下手
- Had a mistake again on annoying become and became past tense, should be more careful to read it.
- Mistake on また which has multiple meaning, this time moreover. I’ll read the example and map out the meanings today.
Not going to add new lessons today. Going to read more examples for problematic grammar and try cramming N5 again today.
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My first check in on this thread, woo!
Leveled up to 5 on WK today. I’ll be happier once I can get a few levels higher and pass the levels I reset from a few months ago. As for Bunpro, got my 30 day study streak! I got quite a few constructs wrong this morning but really redeemed myself this evening by getting 15/16.
Still trying to decide if learning the 10k core deck alongside these two programs is worth all the extra effort or not, especially with working and taking classes. Any advice or will it just lead to burn out?
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I think it is not a bad idea, many words from 10k deck will overlap with wanikani, so it will take a bit less time. Though it shouldn’t be your priority.
Maybe instead of 10k deck (wanikani is de facto 6k deck) just mine unknown words you see in the internet using yomichan (mining means adding unknown words encountered to a deck in Anki).
You should focus on reading (consider using tangoristo app )/watching news・anime.
Choose NHK easy news in tangoristo(there is audio with slow mode included!)
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Have you done nominalizer lesson? If you know the reason why のが is there in the first place then it would be hard to forget it. 
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That makes a lot of sense. And I’m glad I’m not the only one. And yeah, grammatically Swedish is fairly similar to English. Certain things are of course very different, but not even close to how much is different between Japanese and Swe and Eng. I guess it would make sense that nuances of grammar that would come almost naturally between two very similar languages, will not come when they aren’t similar at all.
It isn’t like I could just learn some Japanese words, put them in an order I’m used to and then just learn the few quirks of Japanese syntax. Because a sentence like that means nothing and is in fact about as wrong as it can get. ^_____^
My progress yesterday is sadly lacking. I thought I’d have time and then it turned out I did not at all. I managed to squeeze in 5 WK lessons, but that was only because I did it while I still thought I’d have time for lessons. I didn’t even do any afternoon or evening review sessions meaning my WK reviews are almost 100 high this morning. 
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I never thought about that. Thank you very much for the tip.
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