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Im not sure if this is a bug or just a feature i dont understand but when i pass both section in N2 i fail overall?


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The Japanese/English grammar explanation toggle doesn’t stay switched on mobile and defaults back to English for each page.

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If I’m not mistaken the minimum score for passing Bunpro’s mock tests is 70% ? It’s still weird for it to validate individual sections with less than 70% tho.

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If I understand the JLPT website correctly, that’s how official scoring goes too. The “sectional pass mark” is about 1/3rd each time, and the overall pass mark seems to vary between around 45% and 55%.

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Thanks for all the detail!

Unfortunately I still can’t replicate this :woozy_face:
Are you doing the fill-in-the-blank style Review Type?
Is there any correlation to them being Ghosts vs Regular Reviews?

Hi! Not sure if it’s been noted here yet but it looks like the rareness markers got switched up on my badges, with the N2 being common and N3 being rare. Other badges like N2 vocab are marked common too.

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Hello, welcome to the forums!

To pass, two separate conditions must be met:

  1. Overall score of 70% or higher.
  2. 40% or higher score in each section.

The purpose of the 40% minimum for each section is to allow some flexibility. It means that if you perform slightly weaker in one particular section, you can still pass the test as long as you compensate for it by performing well enough in other sections to reach the required overall score.

In your case, you successfully met the individual section requirement. However, your overall score did not meet the 70% overall passing threshold for the entire test.

Keep up the great work and you’ll get there. 頑張って!

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random hint and grammar point mismatch i had today

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Yep fill-in-the-blank.
I haven’t noticed any relationship with ghosts, but maybe I missed it. (Edit: same behavior whether the review that gets its input cleared is a ghost or not)

Here’s a screen recording: I validate an empty answer, type something wrong, check it, then type anything and the input field gets cleared.

https://imgur.com/a/0Nf8DFg

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You can also see that the “can’t be empty” message stays on.
This is either another bug, or another manifestation of the same bug.

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i seeee thank you! is this a bunpro thing? i just dont undeerstand where the 70% comes from :sweat: on the jlpt website it says the overall pass marks is 90 out of 180?

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done a little bit of googling and i see theres something about analyzing your answer patterns to try and give less points to people they think guessed answers? im so confused haha

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I’m not sure if this is actually bug (maybe I’m just misunderstanding), so feel free to correct me. I found this example sentence under N4 grammar point いたす:

Should this actually be here? I’m familiar with structure てもいい/てもよろしい, but I don’t see any connection to いたす/いたします.

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Yes, the 70% passing score was set by our team.

As you saw from your googling, the official JLPT score system is super confusing.
This is to keep the scores consistent even if the test difficulty varies each edition. They adjust how many points each question is worth based on how well test-takers perform on it.
So 90 points out of 180 is not equivalent to 50% correct answers because easier questions give you less points.

Because their system is so intricate and not fully public, we can’t perfectly replicate it. That’s why we’ve set our own 70% overall pass mark for our mock tests.

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This might be of use:

拝借する is one of those verbs that are already humble on their own, and should not be further humbled by grammar.

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Hmm, interesting, thank you. I think this is the first grammar point I’ve ever seen that’d have an example for when not to use a certain grammar pattern, so this is a bit confusing. Perhaps when you fail this, it could give a brief explanation of what’s going on, like for many other grammar points.

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Ahhh you’re on the Android app!
That explains why I wasn’t able to replicate the issue.

I need to get better at remembering to ask that mobile vs. web question… :sweat_smile:

Will pass this on to the mobile dev!
Sorry for the rigmarole

Good catch! I thought I fixed all these, but obviously not…

Should be fixed now. 🙇‍♂️

There was an issue with the bulk update that we did for the N3 Grammar Alternate Answers Update.

They should be fixed now!
Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

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Yeah looks like the grammar point is more about “humbly doing”, not just the verb 致す。

So it mentions and tests on some of those humble する verbs too